public inbox for gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:57:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1365749860.5030.25.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411185347.GA15002@odin.tremily.us>

On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 14:53 -0400, W. Trevor King wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:22:54AM -0700, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:09 AM, W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us> wrote:
> > > In order to avoid problems like this, it's probably a
> > > good idea to remove all the cached stuff with something like [1]:
> > >
> > >   $ rm -rf --one-file-system /var/tmp/catalyst/{kerncache,packages,tmp}
> > >
> > > before building your stage1.
> > 
> > Not sure this is the way to go. I'll have to think through the
> > implications. Consider your stage1 build dies with some stupid tree
> > breakage that you can fix in your portage snapshot and restart the
> > stage build. This is going to cause your stage to rebuild everything.
> 
> There shouldn't be a need to clear the caches unless you've changed
> the specs or sources.  Presumably you had to change something to fix
> whatever killed stage1.  If that was an ebuild problem, it's unlikely
> that your fix changed an ABI without also changing the package version
> and you should be ok keeping the old binary packages.
> 
> > Wouldn't disabling the use of binary packages during the seed stage
> > update fix this?
> 
> Disabling creation of binary packages during the seed stage update
> would help, and disabling the use of binary packages during the stage1
> build would help.  However, what if you have built a binary package
> for GCC and then you update your tree to something that builds
> libmpc.so.3.  In this case, you're in trouble if you use your old GCC
> binary packages anywhere based on the new tree.
> 
> Cheers,
> Trevor
> 

OK, When I first discovered the update_seed problem, I discovered
several (potential) bugs in the code that could cause failures.  My main
error was due to using binary pkgs which were built against libmpc.so.2.

I talked with Zac (and he agreed) portage _SHOULD_ be checking
NEEDED.ELF.2 which lists the actual libs it is linked to.  There is an
open bug for it in bugzie (sorry, I'm too tired to look for it).  If a
package manager supports installing binpkgs, then it should ensure it is
not installing a broken pkg due to mismatched lib links.

Everything else that is done in catalyst to avoid that is really just a
workaround until the package manager is fixed.

Blueness recently wrote a utility that scanned NEEDED.ELF.2 and looked
for broken/mismatched lib deps.  Perhaps he could help in getting
portage's binpkg handlers updated to check that the binpkg's lib deps
are met for it to qualify to be used.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-12  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-26 16:20 [gentoo-catalyst] patch, fix broken seed stage update Brian Dolbec
2013-02-26 16:37 ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-26 16:47   ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-26 16:48     ` Peter Stuge
2013-02-26 17:29 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-02-26 19:39   ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27  2:04     ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  2:37       ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27 12:12       ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-27  2:37 ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27  3:03   ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  3:22     ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27  3:49       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-03-08 17:27 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2] Remove update_seed_command and strengthen update_seed W. Trevor King
2013-03-08 18:34   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-03-08 18:47     ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3] Strengthen update_seed to update @system and @world with dependencies W. Trevor King
2013-03-08 20:14       ` Matt Turner
2013-03-09 12:10         ` [gentoo-catalyst] " W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 17:09           ` [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 17:39             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 17:52               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 15:12                 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH] files/catalyst.conf: Document linking issues with binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 15:21                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-12 15:33                     ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 16:11                       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-12 18:21                         ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2 0/2] pkgcache warning in catalyst-config(5) W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:21                           ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2 1/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Add man page for catalyst.conf W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:27                             ` [gentoo-catalyst] " W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:47                             ` [gentoo-catalyst] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-12 19:05                               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 19:30                                 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-16  1:33                                   ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3 0/2] pkgcache warning in catalyst-config(5) W. Trevor King
2013-04-16  1:33                                     ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3 1/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Add man page for catalyst.conf W. Trevor King
2013-04-16  1:33                                     ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3 2/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Document linking issues with binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-12-14  5:41                                     ` [gentoo-catalyst] Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] pkgcache warning in catalyst-config(5) W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:21                           ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2 2/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Document linking issues with binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 18:20               ` [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed Matt Turner
2013-04-11 18:22             ` Matt Turner
2013-04-11 18:53               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 19:00                 ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 19:03                 ` Matt Turner
2013-04-11 19:18                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 20:24                     ` Matt Turner
2013-04-11 20:34                       ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12  1:11                         ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 20:37                       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 18:53               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12  6:57                 ` Brian Dolbec [this message]
2013-04-16 19:42           ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 0/2] Blacklisting binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-16 19:42             ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Add binpkg_blacklist option for troublesome packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-16 19:42             ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 2/2] Revert "don't build packages during update_seed" W. Trevor King
2013-04-16 20:35             ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 0/2] Blacklisting binary packages Matt Turner
2013-04-16 20:59               ` W. Trevor King
     [not found]                 ` <516DD074.3090906@gentoo.org>
2013-04-16 22:53                   ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-17  4:18                     ` Brian Dolbec
2013-04-17 11:30                       ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-17 14:57                         ` Matt Turner
2013-04-19 14:11             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-19 16:18               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-19 16:32                 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-19 16:36                   ` W. Trevor King
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-08  8:32 [gentoo-catalyst] More proposed Catalyst changes Brian Dolbec
2013-01-08 18:08 ` Peter Stuge
2013-01-12  8:55 ` Brian Dolbec
2013-01-31 18:39   ` W. Trevor King
2013-01-31 19:46     ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-02 20:41       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-03 12:44         ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-11  2:06       ` [gentoo-catalyst] chmod +x all sh scripts so they can run from the git checkout W. Trevor King
2013-02-02 18:45     ` [gentoo-catalyst] More proposed Catalyst changes Brian Dolbec
2013-02-03 12:20       ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-26 18:04     ` [gentoo-catalyst] patch, fix broken seed stage update W. Trevor King
2013-02-27  1:30       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  1:40         ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-27  2:35           ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  2:41             ` Matt Turner

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1365749860.5030.25.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca \
    --to=dolsen@gentoo.org \
    --cc=gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox