From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qag9G-0004Z8-33 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 03:36:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 926161C094; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 03:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE701C094 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 03:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywm21 with SMTP id 21so2462190ywm.40 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=bY18RylZRPR33vubDGO5f0R0ov7aUCFPvig7NYHN4rk=; b=dybSmg1IV0JQpbelHQZZYdd7DRMtGXJG2L9h9XLOlC+8XMPeOOcRyg9PwrPd0yKi/3 /8C8IsB0eBC4q/KLgpZiffnV4aaWfQUlU/y65eQqMwGr/Eiyo1tmIdh6pNsooqxdNyGR SQLa5k9KYBgsQFaVQ9Q9NdbcpDTCReI3rl7RM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=wFNOpopGwoCl79GFSXo3egtt3d1HmLQFwmx5aieC86FuJAcSmqLHQ1Y8sYLOEBo3Yw 9jMh8ToTEsbnYzUuG5jwtjSfREwBX8YBqRnKG9qm01Fp4FblsL//MKJ0bbGnasIxUAgk Fck2rN25X5tqRBfAOgPqduOGO2Nw39zBxDGls= Received: by 10.150.240.1 with SMTP id n1mr5463089ybh.416.1309059375663; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-76-173.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.76.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r19sm4117226and.26.2011.06.25.20.36.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:36:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:36:13 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Migrating man page to asciidoc? Message-ID: <20110626033613.GA6577@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org References: <4E03DD4C.7050005@gentoo.org> <1308899274.624.67.camel@tablet> <4E04C66B.4010302@gentoo.org> <4E061FD0.4050009@gentoo.org> <4E069B1F.8040409@gentoo.org> <20110626024929.GA6506@linux1> <4E06A41E.6000705@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E06A41E.6000705@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: ced48144c1b1e6db3c54a9c4873189f9 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 05:14:38AM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > On 06/26/2011 04:49 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > > No, we can't have the manpage pre-rendered in the tarball, because that > > makes the tarball different every time it is created since the > > date/timestamps in the archive will be different. In other words, it is > > not possible for anyone to ever reproduce the exact same tarball that we > > produce. >=20 > The varience in timestamp has been no problem for other projects > including genkernel. If all that varies is the time stamp and it > matters to you, it would be easy to add a section to the Makefile > setting the timestamp to a hardcoded value. That is already done if you use "git archive" to generate the archive and use the tags in the git repository along with that. For an example, look at openrc's git repository. > > I see two ways around this: We can either make asciidoc a build time > > dependency so that the user can use something like "make manpage" to > > generate the manpage >=20 > That adds quite some load on indirect dependencies for more or less > nothing, as seen with Matt earlier. That is exactly why I prefer the other option I mention below. > > or we can go back to the manpage that is in the git > > repository. >=20 > Do I have to list reasons against this option? I think it would be helpful if you did since you did the conversion without discussing it with the rest of the team first. William --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk4GqS0ACgkQblQW9DDEZTiNdgCgiat4tQNJlin36nnfX0QTXdqe IWIAn0XbGGLKoLAaY0PRZUH7pMHpDyHl =GEGo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA--