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From: Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Migrating man page to asciidoc?
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:57:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E06BC27.3020808@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110626043329.GA6710@linux1>

On 06/26/2011 06:33 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> That's correct, everything has to be in the repository if you use it.
> The advantage of doing it that way is that anyone can come along
> whenever they want to and generate a tarball that exactly matches the
> one we generate at release time. Doing it the other way, they can't.

Frankly, I don't care about that feature.  I care about content and Git
tags that lead to content.


>> Alright.  On the other hand without dependencies you get nowhere: either
>> you don#t have features or you build every wheel yourself.
>  
>  I'm not quite sure what you mean here.

I was trying to say that you get quite something for the cost you put
into dependencies.  You save re-writing things yourself and you get more
features for free.  That's what the cost is for.


>>    Plus Asciidoc syntax is more readable.
> 
> You can use man ./catalyst.1 to read the man page.

Are you serious?  I want syntax to be readable while editing, not after
pre-processing.  With that argument we could be writing man pages in
assembly.

> 
>>
>>  - Man page keeps itself in sync on
>>
>>    - list of subarches
>>
>>    - version of catalyst
>>
>>  - Option to make XHTML from the same source
>  
>  The cons of the new approach, as I see it, are:
> 
> * auto generated content in tarballs makes it impossible to create the
> exact same tarball twice.

Again, i don't care.


> * Now we need to have a build time dependency, at least for the live
> ebuild, which pulls in about 34mb of downloads just to build the man
> page.
> 
> Since we are just talking about a man page, imho this is a lot of bloat
> for very little gain.

I disagree on bloat and on little gain.

If you insist on changing status quo I would like to call in a vote.

Best,



Sebastian



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-26  4:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-24  0:41 [gentoo-catalyst] Migrating man page to asciidoc? Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-24  7:07 ` Peter Volkov
2011-06-24 17:16   ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-25 17:30     ` Matt Turner
2011-06-25 17:50       ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-25 18:31         ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26  2:02         ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26  2:36           ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26  2:49             ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26  3:14               ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26  3:36                 ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26  3:46                   ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26  3:59                     ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26  3:49                   ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26  4:33                     ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26  4:57                       ` Sebastian Pipping [this message]
2011-06-26 15:44                         ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26 17:33                           ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26 17:55                             ` Peter Stuge
2011-06-26 18:02                               ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26 18:08                                 ` Peter Stuge
2011-06-26 23:01                                 ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26 23:26                               ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-06-27  0:00                                 ` Peter Stuge
2011-06-27  0:31                                   ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-06-27  1:06                                     ` Peter Stuge
2011-06-27  1:43                                     ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-27  3:58                                       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-06-27 15:55                                         ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-07-03 23:28                                           ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-07-04  0:10                                             ` Matt Turner
2011-07-04  0:18                                               ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-27  0:39                                   ` Peter Stuge
2011-06-26 17:55                             ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26 18:17                               ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26 19:25                                 ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26  4:10                 ` Matt Turner
2011-06-26  4:14                   ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26  4:44                     ` William Hubbs
2011-06-26  4:46                       ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-27  6:33                   ` Peter Volkov
2011-06-26 16:48           ` Sebastian Pipping
2011-06-26 17:04             ` Peter Stuge

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