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From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:18:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51670C69.1030801@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdQ38EUfwthOp4X_XmtPf3u_0RyPSnPREZ=E1c_W0o=cCTw9A@mail.gmail.com>

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On 04/11/2013 03:03 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
> <zerochaos@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> Not sure this is the way to go. I'll have to think through the
>>> implications. Consider your stage1 build dies with some stupid tree
>>> breakage that you can fix in your portage snapshot and restart the
>>> stage build. This is going to cause your stage to rebuild everything.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't disabling the use of binary packages during the seed stage
>>> update fix this?
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not sure I'd call rebuilding it every time a "fix" when you just
>> rejected deleting the bad packages and rebuilding ONCE.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean.
> 
> Updating the seed stage should only ever happen once. If that fails
> and you don't have binary packages to fall back to on restarting, I
> think that's an okay price to pay. Especially since it happens early
> enough in the process and avoids potential problems that are only
> noticed at the beginning of stage2.
> 
> Oh, and if updating the seed stage fails... it was only rebuilding gcc
> dependencies anyway. That's not so bad at all. (I don't care about
> custom update commands and isn't something that we can fix)
> 
>> As I said, the only proper fix is to update the toolchain to EAPI5.  We
>> could live in the dark ages forever, but I really don't think it helps
>> anyone.
> 
> That seems like a potentially good long term goal, but isn't something
> that we can force through.
> 
> 
We already don't BUILD any new packages during update_seed.  Originally
we did, I encountered issues and fixed it in
e7ea409acb52b43e9ea141c57201f9f87673f7ba to prevent building of packages
during update_seed.

Thanks,
Zero
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-11 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-26 16:20 [gentoo-catalyst] patch, fix broken seed stage update Brian Dolbec
2013-02-26 16:37 ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-26 16:47   ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-26 16:48     ` Peter Stuge
2013-02-26 17:29 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-02-26 19:39   ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27  2:04     ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  2:37       ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27 12:12       ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-27  2:37 ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27  3:03   ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  3:22     ` Matt Turner
2013-02-27  3:49       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-03-08 17:27 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2] Remove update_seed_command and strengthen update_seed W. Trevor King
2013-03-08 18:34   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-03-08 18:47     ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3] Strengthen update_seed to update @system and @world with dependencies W. Trevor King
2013-03-08 20:14       ` Matt Turner
2013-03-09 12:10         ` [gentoo-catalyst] " W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 17:09           ` [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 17:39             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 17:52               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 15:12                 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH] files/catalyst.conf: Document linking issues with binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 15:21                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-12 15:33                     ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 16:11                       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-12 18:21                         ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2 0/2] pkgcache warning in catalyst-config(5) W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:21                           ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2 1/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Add man page for catalyst.conf W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:27                             ` [gentoo-catalyst] " W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:47                             ` [gentoo-catalyst] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-12 19:05                               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 19:30                                 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-16  1:33                                   ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3 0/2] pkgcache warning in catalyst-config(5) W. Trevor King
2013-04-16  1:33                                     ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3 1/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Add man page for catalyst.conf W. Trevor King
2013-04-16  1:33                                     ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v3 2/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Document linking issues with binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-12-14  5:41                                     ` [gentoo-catalyst] Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] pkgcache warning in catalyst-config(5) W. Trevor King
2013-04-12 18:21                           ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH v2 2/2] doc/catalyst-config.5.txt: Document linking issues with binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 18:20               ` [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed Matt Turner
2013-04-11 18:22             ` Matt Turner
2013-04-11 18:53               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 19:00                 ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 19:03                 ` Matt Turner
2013-04-11 19:18                   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina [this message]
2013-04-11 20:24                     ` Matt Turner
2013-04-11 20:34                       ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12  1:11                         ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-11 20:37                       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-11 18:53               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-12  6:57                 ` Brian Dolbec
2013-04-16 19:42           ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 0/2] Blacklisting binary packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-16 19:42             ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Add binpkg_blacklist option for troublesome packages W. Trevor King
2013-04-16 19:42             ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 2/2] Revert "don't build packages during update_seed" W. Trevor King
2013-04-16 20:35             ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 0/2] Blacklisting binary packages Matt Turner
2013-04-16 20:59               ` W. Trevor King
     [not found]                 ` <516DD074.3090906@gentoo.org>
2013-04-16 22:53                   ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-17  4:18                     ` Brian Dolbec
2013-04-17 11:30                       ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-17 14:57                         ` Matt Turner
2013-04-19 14:11             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-19 16:18               ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-19 16:32                 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-19 16:36                   ` W. Trevor King
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-08  8:32 [gentoo-catalyst] More proposed Catalyst changes Brian Dolbec
2013-01-08 18:08 ` Peter Stuge
2013-01-12  8:55 ` Brian Dolbec
2013-01-31 18:39   ` W. Trevor King
2013-01-31 19:46     ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-02 20:41       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-03 12:44         ` W. Trevor King
2013-04-11  2:06       ` [gentoo-catalyst] chmod +x all sh scripts so they can run from the git checkout W. Trevor King
2013-02-02 18:45     ` [gentoo-catalyst] More proposed Catalyst changes Brian Dolbec
2013-02-03 12:20       ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-26 18:04     ` [gentoo-catalyst] patch, fix broken seed stage update W. Trevor King
2013-02-27  1:30       ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  1:40         ` W. Trevor King
2013-02-27  2:35           ` Brian Dolbec
2013-02-27  2:41             ` Matt Turner

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