From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-catalyst+bounces-2375-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QarWk-00012e-H5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:45:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C98F71C03D; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A87D1C03D for <gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mattst88) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12FFD1B4030 for <gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so3593679vws.40 for <gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.160.68 with SMTP id xi4mr7083285vdb.106.1309103115066; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-catalyst+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-catalyst+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-catalyst+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-catalyst.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.158.168 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:44:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E06BC27.3020808@gentoo.org> References: <1308899274.624.67.camel@tablet> <4E04C66B.4010302@gentoo.org> <BANLkTinzTfe+xVPPawAG1fRM-H8pNDfEOw@mail.gmail.com> <4E061FD0.4050009@gentoo.org> <BANLkTimJSLxA8wRU0HPemibB0ObscFqmHQ@mail.gmail.com> <4E069B1F.8040409@gentoo.org> <20110626024929.GA6506@linux1> <4E06A41E.6000705@gentoo.org> <20110626033613.GA6577@linux1> <4E06AC3D.4000901@gentoo.org> <20110626043329.GA6710@linux1> <4E06BC27.3020808@gentoo.org> From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:44:55 -0400 Message-ID: <BANLkTi=a42uDxxEo2Re0JPsoctrDwx8MWQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Migrating man page to asciidoc? To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c0724ee83685e2d0d8e94d387885f46a On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wrote: >> * Now we need to have a build time dependency, at least for the live >> ebuild, which pulls in about 34mb of downloads just to build the man >> page. >> >> Since we are just talking about a man page, imho this is a lot of bloat >> for very little gain. > > I disagree on bloat and on little gain. > > If you insist on changing status quo I would like to call in a vote. Well, in fairness, the asciidoc dependency was just added a day or so ago. But, I really don't think it's as big a problem as this long email thread warrants. We simply want to avoid asciidoc, and specifically it's dependencies, for catalyst snapshots. For the live ebuild, I don't see the dependencies as a problem. Can't we simply get the timestamp of the last commit to the git branch/tag that we're making an archive from and apply it to the generated content? Doing this would allow us to reproduce an identical tarball, and avoids a lot of other problems discussed in this thread. Thanks, Matt