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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 11/11] catalyst: Remove update_seed spec option
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 19:04:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEdQ38F=_y1TWndPd7bmy-gh7jPgxTwDHyE8rUj28O6gbiGVWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YAlVdmgvy4rX/3mR@dysnomia.localdomain>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 5:20 AM Daniel Cordero <gentoo.catalyst@xxoo.ws> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 09:58:15AM -0500, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:04 AM Daniel Cordero wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 03:21:52PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote:
> > > > There should be no need for custom updates, and if there are exceptional
> > > > circumstances the new --enter-chroot option can be used.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There is still a need, and if I'm reading these patches right,
> > > --enter-chroot would not satisfy that need.
> > >
> > > enter-chroot is interactive, and, depending on hardware speed, the time
> > > between kicking off the catalyst run and when the chroot shell is
> > > invoked may be some time for a human operator to monitor.
> > >
> > > It also adds non-deterministic, un-reproducible behaviour to a build.
> > > Having it in the spec file at least means it is included in a build
> > > artifact.
> >
> > Can you think of a case where update_seed would be needed? I tried,
> > and couldn't think of anything, but I might not be imaginative enough.
> >
> > My thinking is that with @changed-subslots, there's essentially no
> > need to update the seed stage further. But there have been some
> > exceptional cases that don't really fit update_seed (e.g., things that
> > cannot be fixed with emerge ...).
>
> update_seed has been very useful when dealing with perl/python version
> upgrades, where large swathes of packages need to be updated at the same
> time. I'm not sure if @changed-subslots has in any way resolved this,
> but it's convenient to have an override.

Okay, thanks. I'll do some testing in these areas.

> Another example was a recent bash/readline update, where the stage3 had
> readline.so.5 and built the new stage1 bash against that, but installed
> readline.so.6 into the stage1root, hence the stage2 build was broken.

This is *exactly* the situation @changed-subslots is for. Please read
the commit message in 05/11.


      reply	other threads:[~2021-01-22  0:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-18 20:21 [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 01/11] targets: Remove unused 'enter' command Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 02/11] targets: Remove some obvious comments Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 03/11] targets: Update seed stage's sys-apps/portage Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 04/11] targets: Update BINPKG_COMPRESS to new zstd default Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 05/11] targets: Update the @changed-subslot set by default Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 06/11] catalyst: Store references to functions Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 07/11] catalyst: Call config_profile_link for all targets Matt Turner
2021-02-25 13:09   ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH] Fix specifying target_profiles in repo_name:path format Daniel Cordero
2021-02-27 18:52     ` [gentoo-catalyst] " Matt Turner
2021-02-27 23:31       ` Felix Bier
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 08/11] catalyst: Deduplicate prepare_sequence assignments Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 09/11] catalyst: Deduplicate the common build_sequence steps Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 10/11] catalyst: Add option to enter the chroot before building Matt Turner
2021-01-18 20:21 ` [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 11/11] catalyst: Remove update_seed spec option Matt Turner
2021-01-19 11:02   ` Daniel Cordero
2021-01-19 14:58     ` Matt Turner
2021-01-21  5:12       ` Matt Turner
2021-01-21 10:20       ` Daniel Cordero
2021-01-22  0:04         ` Matt Turner [this message]

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