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From: Daniel Cordero <gentoo.catalyst@××××.ws>
To: Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-catalyst@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 11/11] catalyst: Remove update_seed spec option
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:20:51
Message-Id: YAlVdmgvy4rX/3mR@dysnomia.localdomain
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] [PATCH 11/11] catalyst: Remove update_seed spec option by Matt Turner
1 On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 09:58:15AM -0500, Matt Turner wrote:
2 > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:04 AM Daniel Cordero wrote:
3 > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 03:21:52PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote:
4 > > > There should be no need for custom updates, and if there are exceptional
5 > > > circumstances the new --enter-chroot option can be used.
6 > > >
7 > >
8 > > There is still a need, and if I'm reading these patches right,
9 > > --enter-chroot would not satisfy that need.
10 > >
11 > > enter-chroot is interactive, and, depending on hardware speed, the time
12 > > between kicking off the catalyst run and when the chroot shell is
13 > > invoked may be some time for a human operator to monitor.
14 > >
15 > > It also adds non-deterministic, un-reproducible behaviour to a build.
16 > > Having it in the spec file at least means it is included in a build
17 > > artifact.
18 >
19 > Can you think of a case where update_seed would be needed? I tried,
20 > and couldn't think of anything, but I might not be imaginative enough.
21 >
22 > My thinking is that with @changed-subslots, there's essentially no
23 > need to update the seed stage further. But there have been some
24 > exceptional cases that don't really fit update_seed (e.g., things that
25 > cannot be fixed with emerge ...).
26
27 update_seed has been very useful when dealing with perl/python version
28 upgrades, where large swathes of packages need to be updated at the same
29 time. I'm not sure if @changed-subslots has in any way resolved this,
30 but it's convenient to have an override.
31
32 Another example was a recent bash/readline update, where the stage3 had
33 readline.so.5 and built the new stage1 bash against that, but installed
34 readline.so.6 into the stage1root, hence the stage2 build was broken.

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