Gentoo Archives: gentoo-cluster

From: Shanon Loveridge <shanon_loveridge@××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-cluster@l.g.o, Andrew Fant <afant@××××××××.cc>
Subject: [gentoo-cluster] Gentoo Science
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:28:14
Message-Id: 20040129232808.74706.qmail@web25006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-cluster] Call for Participation in Gentoo for Science and Engineering Project by Andrew Fant
1 Sounds interesting. I have been talking to sedeiner
2 about working on HPC / bioinformatics with gentoo and
3 would be interested in forking on any project in this
4 realm.
5
6 Shanon [abstract]
7
8 --- Andrew Fant <afant@××××××××.cc> wrote: > ( please
9 pardon my crosspost on this. It won't
10 > happen again)
11 >
12 > For those involved in high-performance computing
13 > (HPC) and computational
14 > science and engineering (CSE)*, Gentoo, is a
15 > powerful tool, both on the
16 > desktop and on servers or clusters. With it, users
17 > can build environments
18 > that do not waste time offering unwanted network
19 > services and system
20 > daemons, and the binaries for the OS can be highly
21 > optimized to take full
22 > advantage of the system architecture. In
23 > particular, this can improve the
24 > efficiency of numerical simulations that depend on
25 > floating point
26 > performance. Shaving 1 or 2 cycles from an operation
27 > may not seem like
28 > much, but when the routine is executed 5 million
29 > times per calculation,
30 > the savings rapidly add up. Also, Gentoo doesn't
31 > have a rigid release
32 > cycle with EOL dates forced on users who have
33 > working systems.
34 > Administrators and users have the ultimate control
35 > over when upgrades are
36 > made and to which packages. Finally, a group of
37 > enthusiastic volunteers
38 > have written ebuilds for over 100 different
39 > scientific and engineering
40 > applications and libraries, making them readily
41 > accessible to the user
42 > community.
43 >
44 > * Computational Science and Engineering is related
45 > to but distinct from
46 > Computer
47 > Science. It is not usually concerned with research
48 > into computing for its
49 > own
50 > ends, but as a tool for making advances in other
51 > fields. It covers areas as
52 > broad as Geographic Information Systems,
53 > Bioinformatics, Computational Fluid
54 > Dynamics, and Chemical Reactor Design, with many
55 > other fields as well.
56 >
57 > With the potential advantages of Gentoo-based HPC
58 > and CSE environments, we
59 > feel that the Gentoo community ought to do more to
60 > reach out to potential
61 > users and developers in these fields. Gentoo
62 > doesn't come without a
63 > learning curve, and even when that curve is
64 > conquered the need for a
65 > specialized peer group is not obviated.
66 > Furthermore, Gentoo lacks name
67 > recognition in these fields, and even when a
68 > developer or administrator
69 > finds Gentoo and discovers the benefits of its
70 > philosophy, there is often
71 > a sense of isolation that discourages him or her
72 > from moving forward with
73 > Gentoo-based solutions. To address these issues,
74 > we propose the
75 > formation of a Gentoo-science project, encompassing
76 > both desktop and
77 > server issues, with the following list of potential
78 > project goals.
79 >
80 > 1) To act as a clearinghouse for information
81 > about the use of Gentoo
82 > Linux in computational science and
83 > engineering, including the
84 > installation of major third-party
85 > applications, such as Matlab and
86 > Mathematica, which are often less than
87 > completely Gentoo-friendly.
88 >
89 > 2) To be a presence for Gentoo at technical
90 > meetings and trade shows,
91 > both in informal settings, such as BOFs and
92 > badge button campaigns,
93 > and in more formal settings, such as organized
94 > symposia or vendor
95 > booths.
96 >
97 >
98 > 3) To coordinate with the sci herd and other
99 > appropriate Gentoo herds
100 > for bug-testing, code validation, and
101 > potential tree restructuring
102 > as necessary and desirable.
103 >
104 > 4) To provide input to project teams about the
105 > specific needs of
106 > computational science and engineering users,
107 > in particular the
108 > gentoo-server, gentoo-cluster, and
109 > gentoo-desktop teams.
110 >
111 > 5) To advocate with developers and independent
112 > software vendors for
113 > increased distribution neutrality in
114 > specifying software
115 > pre-requisites for applications, and to
116 > encourage use of packaging
117 > systems that are ebuild-friendly.
118 >
119 > Contact information:
120 >
121 > At present, there is no official irc channel or
122 > gentoo forum or mailing
123 > list for this proposed project. Once the level of
124 > interest is determined,
125 > a mailing list will probably be set up to make
126 > communications easier. The
127 > proponents of this project can often been found in
128 > #gentoo-server or
129 > #gentoo-cluster on irc.freenode.net. Please feel
130 > free to post your
131 > comments as followups to this message. E-mailed
132 > comments or requests to
133 > be added to the possible mailing list should be sent
134 > to afant@××××××××.cc
135 > (having "gentoo-science" in the subject would be
136 > greatly appreciated).
137 >
138 > Thank you to everyone for your attention and
139 > thoughts about this exciting
140 > new
141 > direction for Gentoo.
142 >
143 > Andrew Fant
144 > afant@××××××××.cc
145 > JFMuggs on freenode.net
146 >
147 >
148 >
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150 > gentoo-cluster@g.o mailing list
151 >
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155 People get annoyed when you try to debug them."
156
157 Larry Wall
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