Gentoo Archives: gentoo-council

From: Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>
To: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-council <gentoo-council@l.g.o>, gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] January 2010 meeting date
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:00:59
Message-Id: 7c612fc60912242110o32918b04t2e477a1573290a36@mail.gmail.com
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o> wrote:
> I will make it short, since i already requested it 3 times, did create a thread at gentoo-dev ML: > > agenda topic: Discussion and approval for following item: > > Adding real multilib features from current multilib-portage to currently hardmasked and testing > portage-2.2* for wider testing, more eyes looking at it and hopefully more people helping improving > it, so we can get a version, which most can accept for PMS and maybe next EAPI.
Sorry, I forgot to send an email explaining what happened on the council alias as promised. The consensus was that the project wasn't mature enough to go ahead. Also more generally the council's job isn't discussing but deciding, approving, etc... Discussing is what should happen on mailing lists. Before you can bring that to the council we need to see an as-much-as-possible finalized solution with any of the following if applicable: portage branch with an implementation that people can try, documentation, PMS patch, devmanual patches, and a team. By team I mean: who is going to maintain this in the long run if necessary? A one man team is a dead team, it's only a matter of time. If the amd64 team is going to be the one doing this job, and this is just an example buy the way, then we need them to tell us they're OK with it. Now don't get me wrong. I love your project and the last thing I want is to shoot it down. Look at what happened with prefix. They wanted the council to approve it immediately or else... We didn't cede to pressure and worked with them to make it good enough for approval. Right now I don't hear anybody arguing about prefix going forward. And that's exactly what I want for your project, i.e. helping you making it better instead of it fading and failing in the (not so) long run. I will stop now because I'm at a bus stop near Mount Fuji and I need to go. I hope the other council members, especially the more technically competent ones than me, will get back to you on this and offer help and advice. As soon as I have a better internet connection I will contact you about this. Denis.