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From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o>
To: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o>
Cc: Thomas Anderson <gentoofan23@g.o>, gentoo-council@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Re: Bans in #-council [WAS] Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:35:44
Message-Id: eafa4c130906192135t349f517doace64aab0fb26299@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-council] Re: Bans in #-council [WAS] Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009 by Donnie Berkholz
1 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Donnie Berkholz<dberkholz@g.o> wrote:
2 > On 12:06 Wed 17 Jun     , Thomas Anderson wrote:
3 >> The ban was later reversed by Doug Goldstein(Cardoe) because it had
4 >> not been put to a council vote as all bans in #-council are.
5 >
6 > Since when? I've never heard of this. I've banned people in there with a
7 > note to other council members (for the simple sake of good
8 > communication) and no vote ever happened except by lack of objection.
9 >
10 > --
11 > Thanks,
12 > Donnie
13 >
14 > Donnie Berkholz
15 > Developer, Gentoo Linux
16 > Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com
17 >
18
19 Donnie,
20
21 In the past you've e-mailed all of us and told us about the situation
22 and the rest of us agreed with your action. In this case, there was no
23 e-mail and more then half of the council members didn't see
24 justification for the ban based on the conversation at hand. While
25 some of the comments at hand were snide, a lot of the confusion was as
26 a result of the language barrier. I know the language barrier has
27 caused a problem for some of us one time or another. In fact, dev-zero
28 and I have had our share of disagreements as a result of the language
29 barrier. At the same time, dev-zero and I have worked together on
30 quite a few projects and had positive experiences together. We decided
31 in the meeting to let emotions cool and toss it to e-mail. If anyone
32 wanted to see igli banned, to send an e-mail to all the council
33 members (it didn't even have to be on the ML) and we'd go from there.
34 To date, no such e-mail has come. The only e-mails are just throwing
35 fuel on a fire which no longer exists.
36
37 --
38 Doug Goldstein

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