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From: Luke-Jr <luke-jr@g.o>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@g.o
Cc: Karl Trygve Kalleberg <karltk@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] Desktop-ready package administration
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:55:06
Message-Id: 200311302338.20210.luke-jr@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-desktop-research] Desktop-ready package administration by Karl Trygve Kalleberg
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4 On Sunday 30 November 2003 11:19 pm, Karl Trygve Kalleberg wrote:
5 > ) Use flags.
6 > - we should have a cascading scheme of useflags
7 > /etc/portage/useflags/default
8 > /etc/portage/useflags/use.dev-lisp
9 > /etc/portage/useflags/use.dev-lisp.bigloo
10 What is the purpose? Sticky USE flags would make all this unneccesary...
11 >
12 > ) Pinning
13 > - It must be trivial to "pin" a package on a system, telling portage
14 > that under no circumstance should this package be upgraded.
15 I believe one can use package.mask to mask all versions of the package except
16 that one.
17 >
18 > ) Blocking
19 > - It must be trivial to "block" a package on a system, telling portage
20 > that under no circumstance should this package be installed.
21 See package.mask...
22 >
23 > ) Sticky USEs
24 > - When I do USE="foo bar" emerge foo, then emerge sync, then emerge foo,
25 > I want "foo bar" to be used. That is, when I upgrade a package, I want
26 > each package to retain their original use flags, overriding the
27 > global default
28 Yay. It would be nice if we could tell it to reapply USE="foo bar" to the new
29 default USE flags, though.
30 >
31 > Binaries
32 >
33 > We should put out a complete GRP for a some of the desktop environments,
34 > and focusing on keeping these up to date with any new developments we do.
35 > I propose KDE, GNOME and XFce.
36 I think it would be good to get p2pcc working and if neccesary for security
37 purposes, default users to only use binaries compiled completely by devs...
38 >
39 > When/if we add proper printing support (with printer autodetection,
40 > network printing, yadda-yadda), it should work in _all_ our supported
41 > environments. If not, we should reduce our officially supported
42 > environments so that we can ensure proper support for all of them.
43 CUPS/KDE make a very nice combination for printers. I don't see a reason to
44 break this. If GNOME/XFce/etc do not have decent support, they could/should
45 be changed to use CUPS...
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47 Luke-Jr
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