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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:46:21
Message-Id: 200310091646.19917.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research by foser
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4 On Thursday 09 October 2003 16:31, foser wrote:
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6 > Here you already have a problem, the perception of font quality differs
7 > per-person and language. Some people really dislike AA (requires
8 > different fonts to be good), others use different types of displays,
9 > etc. And not latin language users usually know that they need extra
10 > packs to have decent support, don't expect anything non-latin to look
11 > good by default atm.
12 >
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14 I think that everyone agrees that ragged fonts are ugly (not rendered as
15 intended). This happens mainly without aa. Personally I use aa for fonts that
16 are outside the "normal range", so I would like that we try to make things
17 look ok with both.
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19 For non-latin, I think we should look into making clear what needs to be done
20 for making it look good, which packages should be installed etc. Not all
21 people who would use those fonts know that.
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23 > Again this is mostly a personal thing and it currently also depends on
24 > how you install xfree (this is in flux).
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26 We can at least identify the misrendered ones. (At least with -core, with qt,
27 and with gtk2/pango). Those should render approximately the same, sometimes
28 they don't. That might be fixable.
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30 >
31 > > - check the fontconfig, xft configurations
32 > > - list known software that doesn't use the good font systems.
33 >
34 > That is not something up to us really, i don't feel it is our duty to
35 > make legacy applications look good, what matters to me is to get a
36 > current desktop (KDE/GNOME/XFCE4) reasonably ok/consistent looking
37 > fontwise (for as far as it isn't).
38 >
39
40 I agree, with the exception that I think that core fonts should be at least
41 reasonable.
42
43 > > In addition, we can think of making font managment easy for the user. (I
44 > > wrote the font managment tool for mandrakeLinux, he had some working
45 > > features, but uses old font tools).
46 >
47 > Ehm, no please. Config defaults should be good enough, users should not
48 > be exposed to this via another GUI. Gnome already has a sufficient font
49 > settings panel and ways to install fonts, so does KDE to my knowledge. I
50 > don't like more ways to set the same thing on the same level (in this
51 > case on GUI level), it is confusing.
52 >
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54 This should indeed not be a priority.
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56 Paul
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