Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop-research

From: Alastair Tse <liquidx@g.o>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] Report of the desktop-research meeting.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:13:45
Message-Id: D16E2EC8-4C6F-11D8-9297-000A95CE1D2E@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] Report of the desktop-research meeting. by foser
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4 On 21 Jan 2004, at 22:58, foser wrote:
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6 > On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 21:01, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
7 >
8 >> Since avenj was too lazy to subscribe =P :
9 >> <avenj> wasn't there some kind of potential performance hit there?
10 >> <avenj> i thought i was thinking someone thought part of the issue
11 >> with
12 >> RH's performance was utf8 default, but now i'm thinking i'm not sure
13 >
14 > You don't mean python's alleged performance hit (this got shortly
15 > discussed on -dev by lqx) ? To attribute a full systems performance to
16 > UTF-8 sounds far fetched to me. Anyway, the benefits likely outclass
17 > performance loss.
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19 Exactly, the performance hit is minimal for people who don't care about
20 UTF-8. The only performance hit was in python _if_ you used UTF-8 in a
21 script/application. And the performance hit was not in processing time,
22 but in memory consumption.
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24 UTF-8 is pretty much essential to adoption by middle-eastern, european
25 and cjk languages. It could probably be taken on as a desktop project,
26 but I'd much rather it be a Gentoo-wide thing, because it affects much
27 more than the desktop (for instance, if you password has an accent in
28 it, then it will work differently under UTF-8.)
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30 BTW, in respect to avenj's comment, there is no noticable performance
31 hit on Redhat 8/9 because of UTF-8 support, unless you mean the fact
32 that it would make glibc compiles a little bit longer because it
33 generates more locales with UTF-8 character sets.
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35 Cheers,
36 - --
37 Alastair 'liquidx' Tse
38 >> Gentoo Developer
39 >> http://www.liquidx.net/ | http://dev.gentoo.org/~liquidx/
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