[gentoo-desktop] Re: Problem with keyboard in XFCE and Fluxbox

[Duncan]

"gosha-necr" <gosha-necr@××××××.ru> posted
4656DF46.000001.17544@××××××××××××××××.ru, excerpted below, on  Fri, 25
May 2007 17:06:14 +0400:

> I have a problem with symbol 'vertical-line' (now i'm in fluxbox
> session,and cannot insert it :))

I'm not a fluxbox user so probably can't help with that, but the word you 
are looking for is "pipe".  The | (vertical line) symbol is called a 
"pipe".

I'd be in a bad way if I couldn't use pipes, because they are used 
extensively in shell scripts, to pipe the output of one command to 
another, or two together as ||, a logical OR, similar to &&, the logical 
AND.  Since I do a significant amount of my sysadmin stuff in a terminal 
window (in my case konsole, but could be xterm or gterm or rxvt or...), 
I'd be in trouble if the | pipe didn't work there.

As I said, I'm not likely to be a lot of help, but you sent your 
xorg.conf, and I can say it should be safe to stop looking there, as the 
problem can't be there or you'd have problems with GNOME as well, and you 
say it works fine.

What about in the xfce terminal program?  I do see a package for it.  You 
say it doesn't work in xfce, did you try it in the xfce terminal?  I'd 
find it very strange if it didn't work there, because as I said, the pipe 
char is rather critical in shell scripting.

If it were me, the first place I'd look would be the config of the 
offending window-manager/environments.  You say it works in GNOME, so 
it's not a generic xorg problem.  It must be in the config of the 
offending environments where it doesn't work, xfce and fluxbox, from what 
you said.

It /may/ be in the l10n (localization, l, 10 letters, n) settings, 
especially if you use GNOME in US or Western European configs and fluxbox/
xfce in Russian (based on your email) or the like.  I'm not up on such 
things either as I only read/write English, but there's at least one 
Gentoo user that has filed a whole host of l10n bugs (I'm showing my 
ignorance, but Slovakian locale, maybe), because he's in a locale where 
"z" isn't the last letter of the alphabet, so "a-z" doesn't do what 
people using straight ASCII or the like would expect, and there are MANY 
programs that screw up until such assumptions are corrected with the 
appropriate patches.  Gentoo has been fortunate to have him around, 
because it's good to get such invalid assumptions fixed, but I'm sure it 
has been quite a pain for him, as having software not work right until 
one files a bug and someone gets it fixed can be discouraging, and with 
the number of bugs he files, it has to be /very/ discouraging at times.  
Gentoo is very fortunate to have guys that will stick with it like that.

Hopefully your problems aren't quite so consistent. =8^)

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