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Wed, 25 Sep 2024 12:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 15:57:24 -0400 From: "Yuan Liao (Leo3418)" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Help needed for maintaining GNOME Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: "Yuan Liao (Leo3418)" , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LCbtbmjJwhxcrfoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: 4e692121-83ae-49a1-a833-8bf237220609 X-Archives-Hash: d63dc3a2565b44c9241c540a4085e3c4 --LCbtbmjJwhxcrfoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 08:47:30PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello >=20 >=20 > The state of GNOME in Gentoo could use a bunch of work and we don't > really have the developers currently to take care of it. > My own grandiose plans to be back and keep things in good order faced > sad reality (a bunch of personal things) and we could really use some > help in at least carefully reviewing and merging a contributors lots of > work, and hopefully more. > While I don't have the time, energy and currently motivation to be > hands-on in the git tree right now, I am online on IRC rather > constantly (lets say while waiting on work rust code compilation ;) and > happy to help on-board an interested developer or developers with any > peculiarities (which hopefully would get documented in the process), > questions, module interactions, whatever is needed, including during PR > reviews, just please do keep in touch, so I can offload things from my > brain for a more sustainable future. >=20 > Given a huge stack of available pull requests from a contributor, the > main need right now is someone with a Gentoo developer hat who can help > review these and get good things merged, fixed what's needed, and keep > an eye out on the bugs. Of course contributors are welcome too, but > please keep an eye out for not duplicating work that's already waiting > review. As a Gentoo user on GNOME, let me first use this opportunity to thank leio, Matt (who previously maintained GNOME), and flint2 on GitHub (who has been submitting many PRs for GNOME) for your work on this desktop environment. GNOME was something I would like to work on if we didn't have flint2's many pending PRs because, of course, we wouldn't like duplicate work. At this moment, I don't have too much time, but as a stakeholder of this GNOME issue on Gentoo, I'm happy to do my best to help with it. I just can't wrap my head around a deadlock I'm seeing. We surely want and need a Gentoo developer's involvement in GNOME, at least in reviewing PRs; but if no Gentoo developer could review flint2's PRs, then flint2 couldn't even become a Gentoo developer merely by showing a stable stream of _merged_ contributions to GNOME on Gentoo -- because those PRs wouldn't be reviewed and merged. I was quite close to becoming a Gentoo developer but had to pause the recruiting process due to a personal life change; after I sorted that change out, I am no longer interested in the area of Gentoo I contributed to previously (namely Java, because (1) a lot of things about Java have been changed and I have been struggling to keep up, and (2) I don't even use Java a lot personally). I would have definitely loved to help with this if I were already a Gentoo developer. The key point I wanted to make here is that we probably should get flint2 on board as a Gentoo developer. > To my knowledge, one big issue right now is a circular dep between > glib->gobject-introspection->glib, which needs proper solving to move > forward with things. Or at least look at reducing the glib requirement > in gnome-shell some way to at least unleash that core stack for our > users. There are ideas we can talk about. Is this covered by one of flint2's PRs already? >=20 > Mart >=20 Best regards, Leo3418 --LCbtbmjJwhxcrfoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEVQAiTVd6QCDQ6toeWgiLsVYyEqkFAmb0ayNfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDU1 MDAyMjRENTc3QTQwMjBEMEVBREExRTVBMDg4QkIxNTYzMjEyQTkACgkQWgiLsVYy EqngERAAmf32776TnMv6JqGXbq2ktfGWlyK6tW/OXw73DBZNJU0k0YXa+9KKbQBc j+OKiUzO5hsg8R/cegDZkmbrXQjaBx79ePChOot37h536WxXcMSu1dzE3JrvBoIm RoY6tq4redfBqHdFqI3wnMCd3bjaml1v6s+BBC4HA+NQGuhUVVe5flXjKnvtJ5CA ExIBdeOmjmFaJUkVlwNnvdrDIE2XlRZG7J88SNWFvcn1RM2JU0sD46qrdTvtTEr3 Wn8u4RWwqSFnAu7YjQnioVM84jw/wpNX8iD7w27D9Ar11oaJ/wmXe0IHnV24pG31 K0cfNG81aZsRsxBuIxAM3vKQkQj/AeKUFqsiSgx1hI67muQrc5/Qsh+pqJqmO+s5 suJ8iMaGCPCYNWVACKge3/ITl57zLdu7Ft9Sj2kN39lK5wDhf2A5qejWhPvRkFhj P2AdEIms/A/f2dKk/PI+QYOuxtiWyxXqnSrTuYiTPQGyX66E8aJgyix5kmPCYDuj Na50zgTFWqeLVTfLpWuOPMVozF7gMlr6xcvvGh9nkCjqFMSHdqEp1YF25w7WDpy/ c13Rkp5zKbEIkRZzI17EiU+6hSC8ZxwYfqSaHsSakYyP/5xeGo1+AAmusazTAM55 5RmLWbwfVCw79GQmOM/MbVp6WUjMYlcNlMklSARC65edjV2yNuk= =J29J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LCbtbmjJwhxcrfoM--