From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: python@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting dev-lang/python into per-slot packages, starting with 3.14
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 12:22:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a9502aebdbfb9c5d88eb6c6f09152be56ba1b3ad.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uo73py6g1@gentoo.org>
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On Sat, 2024-10-12 at 12:13 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 12 Oct 2024, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> > > IMHO this would abuse the package name for information that absolutely
> > > doesn't belong there. It belongs in PV or SLOT.
> > >
> > > To me it seems that you try to work around a problem (greedy upgrade
> > > behaviour) that should really be solved in the package manager.
>
> > In my opinion, it's the other way around. We have slots, that are a fit
> > solution for packages that are roughly compatible between every major
> > release, and we keep abusing them for every single thing we can bend
> > enough to make it fit.
>
> So are you saying that Python versions aren't "roughly compatible"
> between releases? Like, they're a completely different language?
They're not compatible in the sense "if I install package for
python3.12, it will work in python3.13", because every version uses
a separate package tree. Upstream has effectively made every version
separate. On top of that, the same "minor" version can have a PyPy
variation and a "freethreading" variation now.
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Best regards,
Michał Górny
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-12 8:12 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting dev-lang/python into per-slot packages, starting with 3.14 Michał Górny
2024-10-12 8:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2024-10-12 9:13 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 12:30 ` Anna (cybertailor) Vyalkova
2024-10-12 13:07 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 13:00 ` Luca Barbato
2024-10-12 13:03 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 17:36 ` Luca Barbato
2024-10-12 13:12 ` Sam James
2024-10-12 9:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Eray Aslan
2024-10-12 9:51 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 9:59 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-10-12 10:03 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-10-12 10:06 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 10:05 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 10:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-10-12 10:22 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2024-10-12 11:23 ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-10-12 11:49 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 15:01 ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-10-12 15:10 ` Sam James
2024-10-12 17:21 ` Anna (navi) Figueiredo Gomes
2024-10-12 13:52 ` orbea
2024-10-12 14:32 ` Andreas Sturmlechner
2024-10-12 17:37 ` Nowa Ammerlaan
2024-10-12 18:03 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-12 22:57 ` Mitchell Dorrell
2024-10-14 0:43 ` Sam James
2024-10-14 3:49 ` Michał Górny
2024-10-14 4:09 ` Sam James
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