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On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 22:42 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: |
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> On 09-01-2008 13:03:13 -0800, Chrissy Fullam wrote: |
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> > You have a negative history with wolf31o2, and the details of which quite |
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> > frankly should be kept off this mailing list. His negative experiences |
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> > throughout all of 2007 with Conflict Resolution and consequently Developer |
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> > Relations justify any of your alleged 'attacks on devrel.' Let's take this |
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> > discussion elsewhere. |
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> > Kind regards, |
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> > Christina Fullam |
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> > Gentoo Developer Relations Lead | Gentoo Public Relations |
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> IMHO, you have a very big conflict of interest in this issue. Why do |
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Umm... and? |
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Where in policy does it say that someone *must* remove themselves from a |
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*conversation* where there *might* be a conflict of interest or bias? |
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See, I had assumed that we all were supposed to respect each other's |
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ability to look at the *facts* and *evidence* and make decisions based |
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on said facts and evidence. I mean, if we all stopped participating in |
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conversations where we had our own personal bias, there'd be no need for |
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this list, our IRC channels, or any shared communications medium. See, |
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it is *expected* that people are going to be biased. Everyone will have |
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their own bias. It is how people *act* that makes the difference. Of |
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course, I guess that only applies when it has nothing to do with me, |
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huh? |
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> you (for the second time) handle a case like this one, and not someone |
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> else from devrel? |
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Like who, exactly? Can you even tell who is active in Developer |
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Relations? The Conflict Resolution team is *exactly* Christel, who is |
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pretty much AWOL (not that I blame her... :P) and Ferris. |
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> I have a hard time to take your message as an objective and unbiased |
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> one. |
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So? You mean the fact that I've had numerous verifiable issues with |
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Developer Relations is somehow a matter of opinion that is being based |
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on bias? I guess the emails that I sent to Developer Relations about |
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issues that I was having *long before Chrissy ever became a developer* |
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are all a part of her "bias" towards me and completely fabricated? What |
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about the fact that several other members of Developer Relations have |
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been reviewing and agreeing with all of her determinations? |
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I find this whole thing humorous. None of you know a damn thing about |
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Chrissy and my relationship, yet you make your assumptions. Keep on |
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assuming. I really couldn't care less. |
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It's this exact form of double standard and using things only when they |
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fit what you want that keeps things from actually getting done, |
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especially when they're untrue or based on faulty assumptions. I guess |
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that's just business as usual around here, though. |
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