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On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 08:49:20AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:16 AM Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On 2020-08-10 14:07, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > ...or a revert of a change made for change's sake. |
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> > That's a bold statement for an unambiguous 7-0 decision as seen in |
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> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/575718. |
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> As one who voted yes, my rationale is already in the bug comments, and |
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> I voted yes because it seemed to be the preference of most non-systemd |
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> users on the mailing list. I can't say whether this is still the case |
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> but I'm guessing it is. I don't think it is really a well-founded |
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> preference but I don't really see a point in fighting it when people |
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> can use whichever they prefer. |
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My rationale for voting yes was based on the idea that it would |
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be easy to switch back, and even if we did, it would be easy for |
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someone to switch to eudev if they want it. |
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> If the eudev bus factor drops from 1 to 0 and people get tired of |
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> dealing with it, I suspect switching back will become more popular. |
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> If that never happens that is fine too. If people have unusual |
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> configs not addressed by eudev, or just plain old good taste, they |
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> can always use udev or systemd. |
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> If eudev were causing serious problems or holding back other projects |
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> for some reason I'd feel differently. Otherwise I tend to agree with |
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> the sense that if you're going to make a change there should be a |
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> reason. The reason for the previous change was that a strong majority |
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> had a strong preference. Based on the tone of discussion I'm not sure |
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> that has changed - there isn't as much vehemence in the discussion, |
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> but I suspect that is mostly because most don't think this is likely |
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> to happen so they don't bother to reply. |
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There's another interpretation. Most users or developers don't care. |
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No one has offered to switch from eudev to udev and look at |
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regressions. People are asking me to show what features exist in udev |
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that aren't in eudev. I stuck with udev. I don't use eudev so I don't |
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know. |
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As I have said earlier on the thread, we should look at udev and seee if |
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it breaks things in relation to eudev. That would take some folks |
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migrating their systems and reporting issues. |
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William |
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