Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 22: New "keyword" system to incorporate various userlands/kernels/archs

[Jason Stubbs]

On Tuesday 09 March 2004 13:00, Joshua Brindle wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > Next I'll look at USERLAND. As far as I know, it's not possible to run a
> > gnu USERLAND on anything other than a glibc LIBC. Conversely, a bsd
> > USERLAND cannot run on a glibc LIBC. I can only imagine very rare
> > circumstances where a LIBC would support multiple USERLANDs and an
> > application would care what specific USERLAND it is. To this end, the
> > USERLAND can be dropped and rolled into LIBC if it is ever required. This
> > leaves:
>
> not true
> 1) see http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/index
> this is GNU/netbsd debian port meaning they ported the gnu userland/libc
> to the netbsd kernel, we have similar intentions

These I accounted for in the permutations below.

> 2) "bsd userland" and "bsd libc" mean nothing since there are 3 major
> (and very distinct) sets of bsd userland/libc's (and others not worth
> mentioning)

I never mentioned a "bsd libc" and took "bsd userland" from the examples given 
in the GLEP.

> > I'll just put forward the permutations of these that I am aware of and
> > leave them for later discussion:
> >
> > linux-glibc, selinux-glibc, freebsd-glibc, netbsd-glibc, openbsd-openbsd,
> > freebsd-freebsd, netbsd-netbsd, maxosx-macosx.
>
> erm, we are trying to do something more like
> linux-glibc-gnu, linux-bsdlibc-bsd, fbsd-fbsd-fbsd, fbsd-glibc-gnu, and
> so on

If you drop the kernel from your examples, the libc and the userland always go 
hand in hand. This is the point I was trying to make. I'm sure that there is 
the possibility of a situation like linux-fbsdlibc-obsd but the fbsdlibc-obsd 
part could be rolled into one.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs

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