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From: "Derek J. Belrose" <derek@×××××××××.com>
To: bdharring@××××.edu
Cc: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GUI installer
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:47:57
Message-Id: 3E99324E.9090001@omegabyte.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GUI installer by Brian Harring
1 I'm all for doing it this way if everyone agrees. I think it would be a
2 decent start, definitely.
3
4 I'm gonna head to sleep...it's almost 6am here. But, I want to carry on
5 a discussion with you about the cli portage viewer/manager. I have been
6 thinking about this one a lot, and want to hear other people's ideas on
7 it.
8
9 I'm wondering if this will increase the threads on gentoo-dev enough to
10 warrant something like an IRC channel to do more of a realtime chat thing.
11
12 I'm pretty easy right now as i'm unemployed :) If anyone wants to offer
13 suggestions on how to take this step by step, it would be pretty cool.
14 Project management isn't my forte.
15
16 I like python...so I, myself would suggest a decent python/ncurses
17 layout for the cli viewer/manager. I'll start documenting my thoughts
18 on this when the sun rises :)
19
20 Alright,
21 nite...
22
23 Brian Harring wrote:
24
25 >While I think an X based installer would be nice, I think we might benefit
26 >from first doing up a cli based installer first... at the very least, we
27 >would need a cli portage viewer/manager, which would be a nice package on
28 >it's own...
29 >
30 >Something also I thought about (and have been playing with), is having
31 >essentially a two stage process for the installer- basically everything prior
32 >to the chroot, and then everything after. Why? Well, it would be nice to
33 >have the first half of the installer handle all the fdisking, untarring, etc.
34 >From there, it chroots, emerge syncs and emerge portages, then pulls down the
35 >newest version of itself, and runs that.
36 >
37 >From there, if we wanted we could probably setup some simple equivalent of a
38 >quicky binary x server/svgalib for a x based installer. Meanwhile, if we
39 >have at least a basic cli installer setup, that would be immediately useful
40 >for the cd's, and w/ an update capability, we could push a graphical
41 >installer down to the user once we have it ready...
42 >Thoughts?
43 >~harring
44 >bdharring@××××.edu
45 >
46 >On Sunday 13 April 2003 04:30 am, Derek J. Belrose wrote:
47 >
48 >
49 >>The only real way I can think of is to do some checks on if X is
50 >>running, and if it is, use a graphical toolkit for X...if not, use a
51 >>terminal based kit like ncurses.
52 >>
53 >>I like this idea. I should download a liveCD to throw some code on and
54 >>do tests.
55 >>
56 >>Is anyone against pyGTK or something like it? pyQT? wxPython?
57 >>
58 >>Is anyone against python? :)
59 >>
60 >>Cedric Veilleux wrote:
61 >>
62 >>
63 >>>Why not simply use gentoo's livecd?
64 >>>
65 >>>The livecd can boot the user into a fully loaded console or X workstation,
66 >>>with all the tools needed.
67 >>>
68 >>>The installer could be an additional tool on the liveCD system.. Anybody
69 >>>knows a GUI abstration toolkit that can generate either terminal based or
70 >>>X based interface, depending on what's available at runtime?
71 >>>
72 >>>This way the same installer could be used if X is not working or can't be
73 >>>used.
74 >>>
75 >>>In both environment (terminal / X), multitasking would be possible so
76 >>>experienced users could perform manual tasks while the installer is
77 >>>waiting for input..
78 >>>
79 >>>
80 >>>Just my 2 cents,
81 >>>
82 >>>Cedric
83 >>>
84 >>>
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