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From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: John Mylchreest <johnm@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 03:21:19
Message-Id: 42799125.2000608@cesmail.net
In Reply to: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX by Matthew Marlowe
1 There are also some serious performance issues with I/O. Xen is a much
2 better way to go in the long run. See
3
4 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70161
5
6 for the team that's working to bring Xen to life in Gentoo, and the Xen
7 home page at
8
9 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/performance.html
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11
12
13 Matthew Marlowe wrote:
14
15 >ESX is a completely different beast than workstation, or GSX for that matter.
16 >
17 >Good:
18 >- Very, very stable
19 >- The only real vmware software designed for server apps
20 >- Performance VM QoS for disk, cpu, network, etc
21 >- Easily run 30-40 VM's on a strong box w/ good mem
22 >- Deals with lots of NIC's assigned to different vm's
23 >- Per VM User Access Policies
24 >- Very nice realtime performance reporting
25 >
26 >Bad:
27 >- Dont use for apps that really need performance of
28 >dedicated boxes
29 >- Not cheap, especially if get all the management add ons.
30 >- Setting up some of the networking is more complicated than
31 >it needs to be.
32 >- Not very good w/ linux 2.6 kernel support yet (read, dont do it)
33 >- I don't find the rollback, and cloning functionality as useful
34 >as others. In fact, I've seen some vm's be corrupted if you
35 >select the "append" mode for disk writes, which creates
36 >a redo log that can get lost if the server hardware crashes.
37 >
38 >Matt
39 >
40 >--- Original Message---
41 > To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
42 > From: John Mylchreest <johnm@g.o>
43 > Sent: 5/04/2005 2:16PM
44 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX
45 >
46 >
47 >
48 >>>Hi there, thanks for getting back to me.
49 >>>
50 >>>basically, What I was wanting to know is actual hands-on experience.
51 >>>Whats it like? Pros? Cons? What to watch out for? what its exceptionally
52 >>>good at? whats it exceptionally bad at? bugs? all the normal kind of
53 >>>questions really. How is it so different to vmware workstation? what big
54 >>>management (of guest OS and resource allocation) features are there?
55 >>>
56 >>>Also, if you can, how you use it. what it is you do with it? Application
57 >>>clustering? etc etc.
58 >>>
59 >>>All the stuff which doesnt come out of press releases, reviews and
60 >>>promos :)
61 >>>
62 >>>Cheers, in anticipation :)
63 >>>Regards,
64 >>>John
65 >>>
66 >>>P.S. DK, what happened last fall is water under the bridge.
67 >>>Misconceptions all around, and glad to see your still here.
68 >>>
69 >>>On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 15:12 -0400, Omkhar Arasaratnam wrote:
70 >>>
71 >>>
72 >>>>John Mylchreest wrote:
73 >>>>
74 >>>>
75 >>>>
76 >>>>>Hi All,
77 >>>>>
78 >>>>>Apologies for posting my question to such lists, but it hits the exact
79 >>>>>audience I'm after a response from :)
80 >>>>>
81 >>>>>Does anyone at work run Vmware ESX Server? If so, could they please get
82 >>>>>in touch with me so that I might talk about experiences?
83 >>>>>
84 >>>>>Regards,
85 >>>>>John
86 >>>>>
87 >>>>>
88 >>>>>
89 >>>>>
90 >>>>>
91 >>>>John,
92 >>>>
93 >>>>I've worked with it before and have a number of colleagues in the field
94 >>>>- what's up?
95 >>>>
96 >>>>--
97 >>>>
98 >>>>Omkhar Arasaratnam - Gentoo PPC64 Developer
99 >>>>omkhar@g.o - http://dev.gentoo.org/~omkhar
100 >>>>Gentoo Linux / PPC64 Linux: http://ppc64.gentoo.org
101 >>>>
102 >>>>
103 >>>>
104 >>>--
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109 >>>Web:
110 >>>http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9C745515
111 >>>
112 >>>
113 >>>
114 >>>
115 >
116 >
117 >
118 >
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Re: [gentoo-dev] OffTopic: VMWare ESX Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@g.o>