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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-util/staruml-bin
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 15:09:30
Message-Id: 1818ace3af9173cb346863abf2afafe1ad1c03ad.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-util/staruml-bin by Andrew Savchenko
1 On Sun, 2019-03-17 at 11:30 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
2 > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 18:38:48 +0100 Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > On Sat, 2019-03-16 at 13:14 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
4 > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 10:35:18 +0100 Michał Górny wrote:
5 > > > > On Sat, 2019-03-16 at 09:31 +0000, James Le Cuirot wrote:
6 > > > > > On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:23:00 +0100
7 > > > > > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
8 > > > > >
9 > > > > > > # Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> (15 Mar 2019)
10 > > > > > > # Last reverse dependency of dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5* (#656378). Current
11 > > > > > > # version is outdated, maintainer is MIA and the new versions are
12 > > > > > > # in distro-unfriendly AppImage format (#661740).
13 > > > > > > # Removal in 30 days. Bug #677486.
14 > > > > > > dev-util/staruml-bin
15 > > > > > > =dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5*
16 > > > > >
17 > > > > > I don't care about staruml-bin but libgcrypt is one of those legacy
18 > > > > > libraries that would be helpful to keep around for older proprietary
19 > > > > > software that is not in the tree. In particular, it is used by
20 > > > > > Half-Life 2 and Portal, not exactly obscure games. It is included in
21 > > > > > the Steam runtime but we highly recommend against using that because it
22 > > > > > causes many issues.
23 > > > >
24 > > > > I don't understand why would you want to run some proprietary native
25 > > > > executables requiring obsolete libraries on your system when HL2 works
26 > > > > perfectly via wine, and gets a nice performance boost via Gallium Nine.
27 > > >
28 > > > Because native code works faster than API emulation via wine.
29 > > >
30 > >
31 > > Do you have any data to support that? Or is it 'obvious'?
32 >
33 > Yes, I have. Because Half-Life 2 on native steam works on my old
34 > box with GF 7300 and Athlon-XP and does not work at all on the
35 > same box via wine-d3d9.
36 >
37
38 That's not really a data point. Unless you can actually test it (or
39 otherwise prove that it would be slower if it worked), you're merely
40 complaining that you can't use the faster solution.
41
42 I'm sorry that you've bought non-OSS-friendly video card and now you're
43 stuck with the choice between awful proprietary drivers and far-from-
44 complete OSS drivers. However, that doesn't prove that the native
45 version would be faster at all.
46
47 --
48 Best regards,
49 Michał Górny

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