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On wto, 2017-07-25 at 18:46 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On wto, 2017-07-25 at 18:26 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mike Gilbert <floppym@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > > On 07/25/2017 09:23 AM, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > > > > |
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> > > > > > How is that relevant? Revision bumps are merely a tool to encourage |
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> > > > > > 'automatic' rebuilds of packages during @world upgrade. I can't think of |
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> > > > > > a single use case where somebody would actually think it sane to |
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> > > > > > checkout one commit after another, and run @world upgrade in the middle |
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> > > > > > of it. |
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> > > > > > |
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> > > > > |
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> > > > > Revisions are to indicate that one incarnation of a package differs from |
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> > > > > another in a way that the user or package manager might care about. And |
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> > > > > on principal, it's no business of yours what people want to do with |
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> > > > > their tree. If someone wants to check out successive commits and emerge |
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> > > > > @world, he's within his rights to do so. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > I don't feel I should be obligated by policy to support this use case. |
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> > > > One revbump per push seems sufficiently safe for 99.9% of users. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > If you want to do more revbumps, you are free to do so. |
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> > > > |
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> > > What is the point of separating changes by commits if we don't |
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> > > generally try to keep each commit working? |
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> > > Sure, there are some cases where it is just going to be too painful to |
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> > > ensure that, and so it doesn't have to be an absolute rule. |
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> > > However, if somebody is checking out a tree at some point in the past |
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> > > they shouldn't have to try to figure out where the last push boundary |
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> > > was to ensure that it is sane. Use cases for that include updating |
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> > > older systems progressively, or bisecting a problem. |
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> > Guys, please cut this FUD. |
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> > Nothing is broken if you don't revbump. The only thing that doesn't |
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> > happen is that the PM isn't obliged to suggest user to upgrade. |
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> I wasn't referring to revbumps. Just to ensuring that all commits |
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> generally work even if they aren't pushed. |
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In that case, it is explicitly listed as the third rule for splitting. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |