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On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 07:17:45PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: |
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> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On 12/05/2013 05:30 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: |
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> >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> >>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 06:46:36PM +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: |
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> >>>> seems like a virtual that wouldn't do anything useful except pull in |
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> >>>> random package(s) a la binary-distribution style |
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> >>> What about the stages? Don't we need some form of net support in |
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> >>> stage 3? |
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> >> |
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> >> That's debatable. For a typical install, the user has to install other |
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> >> basic stuff like a boot loader, kernel, etc. So having them also |
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> >> select a network config framework seems logical. |
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> >> Is there a use case for a stage3 in which installing netifrc by hand |
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> >> is impractical? |
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> > Well ... |
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> > I remember filing a bug quite a while ago because we didn't have a dhcp |
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> > client included anymore. This made installs quite annoying because |
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> > before it was stage3, kernel, bootloader, go! |
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> > And now it was go ... stop ... reboot ... install dhcp client ... |
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> > grremblwrrxrmkrxtlmrrrg .... reboot |
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> > That extra step of whining was loud enough to have openrc fixed to be |
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> > able to use busybox udhcp, so that "out of the box" most network worked. |
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> > ... and now people are trying to do the same again. |
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> > I would STRONGLY recommend having a working network setup included in |
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> > stage3, so that compared to now nothing changes. |
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> Yeah, after some further thought, I'm inclined to agree. |
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I think we would be safe as long as we make sure to document in the |
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handbook that users must choose a network manager. We could recommend |
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netifrc by default for now until we can document how to set up the |
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others. |
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Once all of this hits stable I want to work with releng to get them |
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to use standalone dhcpcd on the LiveCD. |
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What do you think? |
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William |