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From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:28:01
Message-Id: 20120719012647.GA14952@waltdnes.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge by "Jason A. Donenfeld"
1 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 08:06:41PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote
2 > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote:
3 > >
4 > > 3. More support for mdev; e.g. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev and
5 > > (still in beta) https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev/Automount_USB The
6 > > next challenge is "custom mdev rules", which should be do-able.
7 >
8 >
9 > Innnnnteresting. Can you talk more about the benefits of mdev in
10 > non-embedded systems? Why would I want to use this instead of udev
11 > (aside from the /usr dispute).
12
13 The biggest benefit is that Gentoo wouldn't become a Redhat-based
14 distro. You can compile Redhat (or Centos) from source with SRPM
15 packages if you wanted a Redhat-based build-from-source distro. They
16 proclaim that udev will not require systemd for the time being. But
17 given how cavalierly they broke 20 years of linux file hierarchy, I'm
18 skeptical of their promises of continued backwards compatability. And
19 what else do they have coming down the pike? What's next to get broken?
20
21 Alpine Linux http://alpinelinux.org/ is busybox-based, so it can be
22 done. A major problem for me is that it also uses uclibc. It does do
23 X11, e.g. GNOME, XFCE, etc), but uclibc rules out my Nvidia card with
24 proprietary drivers. I'm also a paying subscriber of NHL Gamecentre
25 Live, so I need proprietary Flash, which gets broken by uclibc. I've
26 tried Nouveau and Gnash, and they are not ready for primetime.
27
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29 Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>