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On Wed, 20 May 2020 00:21:37 -0700 Alec Warner wrote: |
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>On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:23 AM Lars Wendler <polynomial-c@g.o> |
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>wrote: |
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>> Hi Alec, |
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>> On Mon, 18 May 2020 18:42:24 -0700 Alec Warner wrote: |
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>> >TL;DR: What if we launched id.gentoo.org, an identity provider that |
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>> >provides authentication for Gentoo properties? Basically, 1 |
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>> >username / password for wiki, bugs, email, forums, and any other |
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>> >http service[0][1]. |
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>> >Today Gentoo has numerous systems that mostly work in a segmented |
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>> >way. |
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>> > |
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>> > - To connect to hosts, we use ssh keys. |
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>> > - Git is authenticated via ssh keys. |
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>> > - Email uses LDAP passwords. |
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>> > - Bugzilla has its own identities, with their own passwords. |
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>> > - Wiki is separate, with its own passwords. |
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>> > - Forums are separate. |
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>> > - Infra has an additional 4 systems that use separate credentials. |
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>> >Some applications support 2FA (such as wiki.) |
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>> >Some applications do not support 2FA. |
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>> >Applications that require 2FA have a configuration for each app, so |
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>> >you have N configurations. |
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>> >If we configured id.gentoo.org you would have 1 identity across all |
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>> >gentoo properties. |
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>> >Is this a thing people are interested in? |
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>> >[0] It's unlikely operations for git via ssh would change in this |
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>> >rollout. [1] Its unclear if the scope is "gentoo developers" or "any |
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>> >community member." The former have LDAP accounts and @gentoo.org |
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>> >email addresses and so we can manage them easily; managing 1000s of |
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>> >other accounts in the IDP remains to be seem. |
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>> In case 2FA won't be mandatory I find this a good idea. |
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>2FA is definitely a reason to deploy software like keycloak, but in the |
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>first rollout I don't expect to enforce 2FA. Ideally we would deploy |
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>the U2F support in keycloak and then, similar to our earlier program, |
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>offer discounted or free u2f devices for Gentoo developers; this would |
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>likely be on a 1-2 year timeframe. |
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>Is there some reason you don't want to use 2FA? |
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>-A |
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Well, I haven't found any 2FA solution that isn't a PITA to use. |
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Especially Nitrokey is not easily useable for 2FA. And having some OTP |
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or U2F software on my mobile phone is a no-go. |
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I know about the value of 2FA and I use it in some places but I find it |
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not being the perfect solution for everything. |
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>> Kind regards |
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>> -- |
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>> Lars Wendler |
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>> Gentoo package maintainer |
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>> GPG: 21CC CF02 4586 0A07 ED93 9F68 498F E765 960E 9B39 |
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Cheers |
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Lars Wendler |
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Gentoo package maintainer |
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