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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 13:03:14
Message-Id: 4C31D805.7010100@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo by Nirbheek Chauhan
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4 On 07/04/10 23:32, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
5 > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
6 >> On 07/04/2010 04:09 PM, Jory A. Pratt wrote:
7 >>>
8 >>> For those of you not on the #gentoo-dev channel, I just announced I am
9 >>> gonna be looking at the openrc code and fixing the bugs and working to
10 >>> continue the development. Anyone that is interested in helping please
11 >>> feel free to contact me off list to discuss how we will handle getting
12 >>> openrc back on track.
13 >>>
14 >>
15 >> Well, openrc isn't any worse than baselayout-1 for upstream support.
16 >> However, I do agree that we should strongly try to standardize on
17 something
18 >> that is more cross-platform if possible.
19 >>
20 >> I'd rather not push to make openrc stable (which means lots of
21 migration for
22 >> users), only to then move to something else anyway. Why have two
23 migrations
24 >> when you can just have one?
25 >>
26 >
27 > The reason why people want to do an openrc migration right now is
28 > because we don't know when we'll find something else to move to; make
29 > it work with gentoo, make it work for everyone, iron out all the bugs,
30 > and push it to stable. In all probability, and looking at our past
31 > experience with pushing openrc to stable, it *will* take years. It's
32 > too much work to maintain both baselayout-1 *and* openrc *and* find
33 > something else to move to. It's best to move to openrc (which has
34 > numerous benefits over baselayout-1, and has a maintainer now), and
35 > then see what we can do.
36 >
37
38 That's true, but there's also the fact that openrc has merits which
39 make it an attractive choice --- it is not just that we're stuck with
40 it. We've all used other init systems. I like openrc best. Its
41 excellent for servers and compatible with all the goodies people want
42 on desktops. It is one of the features that attracted me to Gentoo.
43 I'm going to be helping Jory and Patrick with this one. If people
44 feel strongly that we need another init system, it would be
45 interesting to have Gentoo compatible with others (although this
46 sounds like quagmire). However, I wouldn't want to see openrc go.
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