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From: Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:14:14
Message-Id: 20130414022418.45e1ed85@caribou.gateway.2wire.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing? by Tom Wijsman
1 On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:55:39 +0200
2 Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600
5 > Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@g.o> wrote:
6 > >
7 > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the
8 > > > Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide only the first time he emerges
9 > > > the package. Fixes bug #457598.
10 > >
11 > > Call me crazy, but upgrade guides seem like something you might want
12 > > to tell the user about during an upgrade.
13 >
14 > True, I was wondering if there is a way to show it on their first
15 > upgrade instead; most users would indeed not be able or forget to
16 > bookmark this during their handbook install.
17 >
18 > Therefore, I won't commit this patch.
19 >
20 > I wonder if Pacho can adapt the eclass to allow us to do this on the
21 > first upgrade, I have explicitly put him in CC so he can consider that.
22 > Perhaps he can also explain why he wanted to see this change happen.
23 >
24 > I thought the goal of this eclass is to get rid of repeating messages
25 > that are not that important from the elog. After you have installed the
26 > kernel twice you should be able to do it a third time. People that
27 > really still need the link have it either bookmarked or can look into
28 > that file, another concern here is that nothing mentions its existence.
29 > The user would have to spot it in the list of installed files, strange.
30 >
31 > If I misunderstood the goal of this eclass, sorry, it's not documented.
32 > I thought people were against these kind of repeating messages in elog.
33 >
34 > - http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-reference/readme.gentoo.eclass
35 >
36 > - Bug in discussion: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457598
37
38 Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the
39 first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were users
40 complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to hide important
41 messages in random places?
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