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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 04:30:52
Message-Id: pan$a5ec4$aa356084$553be10$a720222d@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2) by Mike Gilbert
1 Mike Gilbert posted on Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:10:09 -0500 as excerpted:
2
3 > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Matthew Thode
4 > <prometheanfire@g.o> wrote:
5 >> On 17-12-21 08:34:31, Michał Górny wrote:
6 >>> W dniu czw, 21.12.2017 o godzinie 05∶29 +0000, użytkownik Duncan
7 >>> napisał:
8 >>> > Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted:
9 >>> >
10 >>> > In all this I don't see an answer to one question:
11 >>> >
12 >>> > Will this eventually be the only supported choice, or is the
13 >>> > compatibility-symlinked version going to be supported going forward
14 >>> > too?
15 >>> > If it's to be only-supported, what's the timeline?
16 >>>
17 >>> The former. We'll make a timeline when the profiles are tested and
18 >>> stable.
19 >>>
20 >>>
21 >> What group are the ones making this decision?
22 >
23 > The decision was effectively made by vapier in 2014 (see bug 506276);
24 > mgorny is the one doing most of the work in 2017. There's also a group
25 > of us who have been following the bug and experimenting with our own
26 > systems since then.
27 >
28 > If you disagree with this plan for some reason, please start a new
29 > thread.
30
31 Reading the bug (506276), it seems to me it's all about /supporting/
32 symlink=no, discussing migration scripts to make it possible to migrate
33 existing installations, etc, not /mandating/ it.
34
35 I don't see anything suggesting that vapier, or anyone else for that
36 matter, decided it was going to be the _only_ choice, just that it would
37 eventually be _a_ choice.
38
39 Much like x32 didn't replace x86 or mulitlib, but became another choice
40 for those who wanted it.
41
42 Thus the only thing suggesting it'll be mandatory remains the direct
43 answer to my direct question above, asking about it.
44
45 Meanwhile, I don't really disagree at this point, certainly not if much
46 like usrmerge and (s)bin merge a gentooer is free to decide on their own,
47 regardless of official support for it, but I'm wondering whether that
48 will continue to be the case, or if the test (discussed in the bug) to
49 die if the symlink remains when people are on the new profiles will
50 effectively enforce it against an admin's will, even if that's not the
51 intent.
52
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55 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
56 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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