Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

[Aaron Bauman]

It's not about *you*.  Please provide a reasonable justification.

On July 19, 2018 9:54:40 PM EDT, Mikle Kolyada <zlogene@g.o> wrote:
>
>
>On 20.07.2018 04:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in
>>> profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably).  This flag is
>already
>>> enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages
>
>>> used on non-desktop linux systems.
>>>
>>> This flag provides useful functionality that most linux users will
>want.
>>>   I'm a bit surprised that we still don't have it in all linux
>profiles,
>>> but I think we've worked around this in the past by adding
>IUSE=+udev to
>>> quite a few of those packages (33 packages, 116 ebuilds, by my
>count).
>>>
>>> This missing flag came to my attention again on bug 661584 where
>lvm2
>>> has IUSE=+udev but cryptsetup has only IUSE=udev, so non-desktop
>users
>>> have a bit of a mismatch between the 2 and get ugly errors on
>cryptsetup.
>>>
>>> Since this flag only affects linux, I think it makes more sense to
>set
>>> it in linux profiles than to use IUSE defaults.
>>>
>>> Any objections to this idea?
>> I have server setups with udev disabled for most packages. So udev
>> enabled by default will create maintenance problems. While I'm
>> perfectly fine with udev enabled by default on desktops, it should
>> not be forced on minimalistic setups like servers or containers.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andrew Savchenko
>+1. widely used profiles should have as least flags enabled by default
>as possible, I would not be happy with +udev on my servers.

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