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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:07:26
Message-Id: f1f6a55dd799fbbd0aa9e7c8ca1b50c61e6f855d.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: switching default udev provider for new systems to udev by Thomas Deutschmann
1 On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 13:52 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
2 > On 2020-08-09 23:14, William Hubbs wrote:
3 > > Here is something else to consider.
4 > >
5 > > Blueness and any of the other eudev maintainers are doing good work
6 > > for alternative c library support such as musl. In fact, the musl
7 > > profiles hard mask sys-fs/udev, so they are covered no matter what
8 > > happens as a result of this thread.
9 > >
10 > > Eudev is supposed to be udev without systemd along with alternative c
11 > > library support, but it appears to be behind what eudev offers.
12 > >
13 > > The following commit appears to be the last time eudev synced with udev:
14 > >
15 > > https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/commit/2ab887ec67afd15eb9b0849467f1f9c036a2b6c8
16 > >
17 > > There are roughly 100 commits in the udev master branch since the date of this
18 > > sync:
19 > >
20 > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master/src/udev
21 > >
22 > > There are several new commits in libudev and udev rules since then as
23 > > well:
24 > >
25 > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master/src/libudev
26 > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master/rules.d
27 > >
28 > > I would like to publically thank Leio for providing me with the
29 > > information above.
30 > >
31 > > I asked the council for guidance and was told that they don't need to be
32 > > involved, so I guess the best thing to do now is call for testers.
33 > >
34 > > It would be helpful if people migrate their systems manually from eudev to udev
35 > > and report issues.
36 > >
37 > > I'm not a valid test case because I have always run udev.
38 >
39 > This is not answering my questions.
40 >
41 > If anything from above would be valid (like others have asked you for
42 > bugs and already mentioned that commit count alone don't say anything)
43 > we wouldn't just be talking about switching default for *new*
44 > installations. Instead we would need to talk about ditching eudev in
45 > general...
46 >
47 > So for me it still looks like change for change's sake without a real
48 > reason.
49 >
50
51 ...or a revert of a change made for change's sake. In the end, it all
52 boils down to preference of a single person, and potential of another
53 person reverting it.
54
55 --
56 Best regards,
57 Michał Górny

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