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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:20:33
Message-Id: 56B89612.3060800@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider by Andrew Savchenko
1 Andrew Savchenko wrote:
2 > On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 06:12:05 -0500 Anthony G. Basile wrote:
3 >> On 2/8/16 4:25 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote:
4 >>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 10:08:22 +0100
5 >>> Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote:
6 >>>
7 >>>> Ohey,
8 >>>>
9 >>>> I've opened a bug at:
10 >>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=573922
11 >>>>
12 >>>> The idea here is to change the order of the providers of virtual/udev.
13 >>>> For existing installs this has zero impact.
14 >>>> For stage3 this would mean that eudev is pulled in instead of udev.
15 >>>>
16 >>>> The rationale behind this is:
17 >>>>
18 >>>> * eudev is an in-house fork, and there's more than a dozen distros
19 >>>> already using it by default that are not us. Which is a little bit
20 >>>> weird ...
21 >>>>
22 >>>> * Both udev and eudev have pretty much feature parity, so there won't
23 >>>> be any user-visible changes
24 >>>>
25 >>>> * udev upstream strongly discourages standalone udev (without systemd)
26 >>>> since at least 2012
27 >>>>
28 >>>> (see for example:
29 >>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-June/005516.html
30 >>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/618
31 >>>> )
32 >>>>
33 >>>> So it'd be (1) following upstreams recommendations and (2) dogfooding
34 >>>> our own tools. I don't see any downsides to this :)
35 >>>>
36 >>> +1
37 >>>
38 >>> I switched to eudev a few years ago and glad I did.
39 >>>
40 >>> The non-systemd profiles should have eudev as default.
41 >>>
42 >> just pile the pressure on :)
43 > +1
44 > I use eudev on all setups (both home and work) for years now.
45 > The experience is yummy.
46 >
47 > Best regards,
48 > Andrew Savchenko
49
50 +1
51
52 As a lowly user, I switched very shortly after eudev was started. I
53 think it was like the second or third release. So far, I've not seen
54 any problems. It just works.
55
56 One thing about Gentoo, for those who don't want eudev, they can always
57 select another tool.
58
59 Back to my hole.
60
61 Dale
62
63 :-) :-)