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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:10:32PM +0000, Duncan wrote: |
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> Ryan Hill posted on Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:30:15 -0600 as excerpted: |
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> > On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:05:44 +0000 |
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> > Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote: |
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> >> > Isn't that the point? People should be discouraged in every way not |
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> >> > to use live ebuilds. I'd add a third if we had one. :) |
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> >> Actually not. Users are already familiar with the -9999 concept so |
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> >> there is no point to add extra obstacles in their way. I am trying to |
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> >> find out corner cases where double masking makes sense. Otherwise it |
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> >> makes no sense to me. Actually the majority of users get confused when |
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> >> a package is double masked. Just drop by forums etc and you will see :) |
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> > Again, that's the point. If you can't figure out how to get around a |
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> > double mask then you have no business installing live ebuilds. |
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> As a user who regularly uses certain live ebuilds (and contrasting SP), |
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> strongly agreed. If the double-masking is confusing them, they're better |
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> off sticking with standard versioned ebuilds as they're demonstrably not |
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> up to dealing with other difficulties which might arise with a live |
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> package and Gentoo doesn't need the extra bug noise. Double-masking for |
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> live ebuilds in the main tree thus seems to me to be the best policy. |
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I thought I'd chip in as well. I wouldn't consider myself a poweruser, but more and more often I find myself preferring to use the live ebuilds. When I first attempted at using live ebuilds I knew next to nothing and didn't quite understand the double masking. Some time later I know use a fair few live ebuilds. Had I understood the masking (more so than being able to remove it) back then, then I would have used them. But I reckon it's a good idea to have the double masking and confuse those that don't know enough. |
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I'd say keep the double masking. Better that than the bugs it would probably produce, and the breakage it could produce. |
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