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From: Max Kalika <max@g.o>
To: stuart@g.o, gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Poll: Where should web applications be installed?
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:54:26
Message-Id: 261493890.1058946863@[]
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Poll: Where should web applications be installed? by Stuart Herbert
1 Quoting Stuart Herbert <stuart@g.o>:
3 >> One question though. Why do all
4 >> ebuilds currently insist on making files owned by the web user (apache)?
5 >> Seems very wrong to me as the apache user is able to write to the
6 >> applications. It seems just like giving ownership to a regular user
7 >> account for other applications.
8 >
9 > Because most web apps are badly written, and rely on write access to
10 > directories on the machine. Sorry - I just can't think of a polite way
11 > to put that ;-)
13 Not all applications. The ones I've been dealing with work perfectly well
14 having all the files owned by root. I'm speaking of the entire Horde suite
15 (and not just because I'm on the Horde team ;-)), phpMyAdmin, mailman, etc.
16 I would really urge to only make the files owned by the web user when
17 absolutely necessary.
19 > As an interesting aside, because we run apache under the apache user
20 > (rather than a nobody user), it'll make the business of supporting
21 > multiple web servers quite a mess. I mean, if you install tikiwiki,
22 > which user should own it?!?
24 I'd say we have to pick a de-facto web server and install all apps based on
25 that. If a user wants a webserver other than apache, it is really easy to
26 chown all the files (if that is all that has to be done). And if an
27 application doesn't require being owned by the web user, things are even
28 easier. The only thing that has to be done is to do a configuration block
29 similar to how apache needs it, and that can eventually be worked into that
30 eclass I posted earlier -- if that is the way we want to go.
32 > I read your post about having proposed this before, but with no real
33 > response. Tell you what - if no-one else sends through any feedback, I
34 > guess no-one would really notice if we went ahead and just did this? ;-)
36 :-) I'll wait a day or so. If you want to discuss this further, catch me
37 on irc (alkern).
39 --mk
41 --
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Poll: Where should web applications be installed? (Alvaro Figueroa Cabezas)