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On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 12:51:07 -0700 Michael M Nazaroff |
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<naz@×××××××××××××××××.et> wrote: |
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> On Wednesday 03 October 2001 12:34 pm, you wrote: |
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> Just to let everyone know I completely agree with Donny on |
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> this...Gentoo |
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> should be power house not dumbed down. |
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> |
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> > Nope. Sorry. Im not in agreement in this at all. Of course, its |
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> open to |
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> > debate, Im not saying I know everything, nor Im 100% right. Go |
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> ahead, |
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> > debate away. But I dont want any part of it, Ill tell you that! |
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> > |
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> > If you dont understand the ramnifications of packet filetering, |
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> NAT, etc |
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> > then you have *no* business running this software. We are not |
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> Microsoft or |
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> > Wingate, opening yuor machine to a wider world. |
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> > |
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> > What if somebodys iptables script is made into an ebuild, and said |
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> script |
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> > turns out to be flawed, perhaps seriously? Then its "hey, yeah |
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> those guys |
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> > at gentoo have a firewall setup like swiss cheese.". What |
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> interfaces are |
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> > yuo going to configure this ebuild for? eth0 and eth1? how about |
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> ppp? maybe |
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> > an isdn interface? How do yuo choose? Im going to say this again, |
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> it is |
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> > %100 configuration. This is *not* the domain of a package. It is |
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> the domain |
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> > of a system administrator. This is 1 file we're talking about here |
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> people, |
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> > not a series of docs, scripts, config files. *most* of them |
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> anyway. There |
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> > *are* some that come with external configs. But thats all beside |
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> the point. |
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> > The script needs to be edited. This whole thing started because we |
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> > basically had a post to the devel list of the flavour: "I need an |
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> iptables |
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> > HOWTO". |
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> > |
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> > What are you going to do about the kernel modules? Did you know |
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> that |
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> > the netfilter modules are built at the kernel level? How are you |
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> going to |
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> > DEPEND on that? |
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> > |
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> > This is bad policy. A distribution should *not* be dictating |
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> *policy*. To |
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> > not understand that is a big mistake. Listen, Redhat and Mandrake |
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> are |
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> > the kinds of distros doing this stuff! Making Linux into a 1-click |
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> affair. |
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> > This is not our primary intention. Not at this stage anyway! |
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> > |
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> > So feel free to debate it all you want, I wont be having *any* |
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> part in it |
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> > Ill tell you that! |
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> > |
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Yep, I agree too. This really needs to be |
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documentation-documentation-documentation. There should be HOWTOs |
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tailored to the gentoo way for most of the things everyone would like |
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to do. |
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-- |
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Collins Richey |
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Denver Area |
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gentoo_rc6 xfce+sylpheed |