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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:20:48 -0500 Chris Gianelloni |
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<wolf31o2@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 06:37 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> > Nor are most Gentoo projects controlled by Gentoo. Try asking for a |
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> > new feature in Portage sometime if you think that Gentoo has any |
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> > say over how projects are developed... |
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> Uhh... |
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> |
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> Bug #167667 |
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> Bug #167668 |
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> Just because the features that you ask for aren't done, don't mean |
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> features aren't added on request. Sure, my feature requests are much |
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> simpler than "add some new ability to dependency resolution" to |
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> implement, but they prove the point that no matter how much bitching |
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> and whining people do, the portage team *is* responsive and does fill |
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> requests in a timely manner. It's even easier if you provide patches. |
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No, they fill *some* requests in a timely manner, whilst ignoring many |
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things that the tree, developers and users really need. |
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> The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now, |
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> I have no idea. While the current PMS project is not what we asked |
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> for and *is* outside the scope of Gentoo, due to our wishing to still |
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> *have* a specification of EAPI=0, we are wanting to look at other |
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> possibilities for getting one done. What the Council is interested |
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> in is a specification of expected behavior of an EAPI=0 compatible |
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> package manager. At this point, I don't give a damn who writes it or |
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> what implementation, if any, matches it 100%. I am pretty sure it'll |
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> be *very* close to current portage functionality, side-effects and |
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> bugs excluded, of course. We asked for a specification. If the PMS |
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> team is unable or unwilling to provide us with what we asked under |
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> the terms we asked for it, we're going to pursue other options. We |
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> can't control PMS< but we also don't have to sit around and do |
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> nothing to reach the Council's goal of an approved specification for |
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> EAPI=0, a goal which I believe some people lost sight of some time |
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> ago. |
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A specification that no-one follows or that is full of inaccuracies is |
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worthless. |
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-- |
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Ciaran McCreesh |
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Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org |
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Web : http://ciaranm.org/ |
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