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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages masked for lack of maintainer, but metadata.xml says otherwise
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:32:29
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr8tYBHx0YPvhe618-CjNLa-77vczxA2rpmKXEoOO4Rehw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages masked for lack of maintainer, but metadata.xml says otherwise by "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn"
1 2012/2/2 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <chithanh@g.o>:
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5 > Mike Frysinger schrieb:
6 >> On Thursday 02 February 2012 17:56:16 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
7 >> wrote:
8 >>> there have been a number of packages masked lately due to lack
9 >>> of maintainer. However, their metadata.xml does not list
10 >>> maintainer-needed@g.o which I think should be the first step in
11 >>> searching for a new maintainer.
12 >>
13 >> if there is no <herd> and no <maintainer>, then
14 >> "maintainer-needed@g.o" is implicit.  why do we need to explicitly
15 >> list it ? -mike
16 >
17 > If that is the case, then removing would also be ok. But my point was
18 > that the packages still had other maintainers listed.
19
20 I want to avoid setting rules in stone. We are not correctly tooled,
21 trained, or have any kind of vigor for that sort of approach.
22 Metadata.xml is a useful guide to knowing who might care (have cared?)
23 about a package. It is not 100% accurate despite the efforts of the
24 developer community. When buggy software is buggy for months (nay,
25 years?) it is treecleaner policy to mask it. Casting about for
26 maintainers is sometimes useful. You see the undertakers do this often
27 when retiring individuals. That being said, the quickest way to get a
28 response from the community is to mask it and wait for someone who
29 cares to step up, ergo the policy to mask packages we cannot find time
30 to fix.
31
32 For reference, the list of developers who are listed as active but
33 have not committed anything in gentoo-x86 'recently' is around 95. I
34 am set to eventually retire 33 of them (still getting some bugs out of
35 the scripts.)
36
37 The entire list is (active) + (inactive) or (162) + (95). Obviously
38 not everyone in the inactive list is really inactive (the limit afaik
39 is 30d) but the point is that even if the metadata.xml lists someone
40 there is a 1 in 3 chance that they may not be following closely
41 anyway. Developers on devaway are a similar issue
42 (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338829)
43
44 -A
45
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48 > Best regards,
49 > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
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