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* Noack, Sebastian <S.Noack@××××××××××.de> schrieb: |
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> Hey, come on. We're not Debian! Unnecessary and senseless |
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> splitting of packages is against the philosophy of Gentoo. |
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I don't think "we are not xyz" is a good argumentation in |
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technical discussions. |
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At this point, Debian is actually doing good work. The bad thing is |
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that those things don't get neither into the upstrem nor other |
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distros. That's exactly what my OSS-QM project is for. |
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> > > (kde || qt4 || qt3 || qt || gtk) (arts || alsa) (asf && win32codecs) |
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> > IMHO unnecessary complexity which introduces more point of failure |
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> > and confusion. |
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> At the first sight this approach seems to add complexity, but actual it |
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> would remove a lot of complexity on Gentoo systems. For example on my |
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> own system here I have approx. 40 lines in my /etc/portage/package.use |
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> which could be reduced to less than 10 lines by using such a syntax like |
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> above in the /etc/make.conf for global useflag configuration. |
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You shouldn't mix up quantity with complexity. |
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If you make handling of badly designed code easier, you take presure |
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from the actual developers. |
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> > With you suggestion, the package maintainers have to take care of |
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> > Grandma's special conditions. This shouldn't be their job. |
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> > Granma's Box cries for an special Grandma-Distro, Grandma-Gentoo ! |
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> > This should be maintained by an separate team, which is specialized |
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> > on the needs of those users. |
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> In the described scenario, it wasn't mentioned that she has a |
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> grandchild, so where do you know from that she is a grandma? ;) |
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So no special Grandma-support is needed at all. |
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> Doesn't matter, btw it was in any case just an example where such |
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> a syntax would be useful. Another szenario would be a server with |
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> several database-based apps on it, where an expression like |
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> "(postgres || mysql)" might be useful. |
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Aehm, you hopefully know that they don't have very much in common. |
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Please give me an example, where this would be should be useful. |
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RDBMS'es aren't actually things we you could say "choose what you |
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like, doesn't matter which one". Yeah, would be nice if it was |
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so, but that's just a nice dream. |
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cu |
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Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ |
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Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: |
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http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce |
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Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: |
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http://patches.metux.de/ |
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