Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:28:21
Message-Id: pan.2012.12.16.18.27.11@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...) by Michael Orlitzky
1 Michael Orlitzky posted on Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:20:10 -0500 as excerpted:
2
3 > On 12/16/2012 12:02 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
4 >> On 16-12-2012 11:57:35 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
5 >>> 3. Get off CVS for Christ's sake. Nobody wants to work with that.
6 >>> I don't know how this fits into my bullet list, but it's important.
7 >>
8 >> It doesn't, and it's not.
9 >>
10 > I'm not going to put together a powerpoint presentation for you, but
11 > think about it this way.
12 >
13 > Many new developers who want to contribute to to some project will learn
14 > git, because a large number of important projects use git. No (new)
15 > developers are going to learn CVS. Ever.
16 >
17 > Therefore, we can rule out "using CVS is helping us attract new
18 > developers."
19
20 I agree getting off of CVS is important in that it's likely triggering a
21 writeoff of gentoo from the list of potential volunteers before they even
22 get to where we see them, but AFAIK, the switch to git /is/ making (slow)
23 progress. One of the big blockers was apparently taken care of via
24 bounty (relatively) recently, and I don't think they'd have spent the
25 money on that if they believed it to be pouring that money down a rathole.
26
27 Before finding out about that, I too had despaired of the git transition
28 being anything but "bluesky", but that's concrete indication that
29 /somebody/ is still working on it, and that it's considered important
30 enough for the gentoo foundation to spend money on.
31
32
33 Meanwhile, I'm not sure how practical your bounty for recruiting spruceup
34 is, since much of that work's likely to require intimate knowledge of
35 gentoo and recruiting to approve, if not to actually do, and that level
36 of knowledge is apparently in short supply, or recruiting wouldn't be the
37 bottleneck it seems to be.
38
39 I don't know how important a general gentoo web page redesign might be (I
40 think what's there is perfectly functional and great), but you're
41 certainly correct on the content itself; anything still mentioning
42 looking for openings in the weekly newsletter is... anachronistic I think
43 is the term. Have you checked for and filed if necessary, a bug on that?
44
45 --
46 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
47 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
48 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...) Michael Orlitzky <michael@××××××××.com>