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From: Chris Bainbridge <C.J.Bainbridge@×××××.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Niches and new developers (especially xbox)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 13:07:54
Message-Id: 200406121407.48916.C.J.Bainbridge@ed.ac.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Niches and new developers (especially xbox) by Chris Gianelloni
1 On Friday 11 June 2004 18:47, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 > While it is
3 > questionable whether mp3 support is legal to distribute, the patent
4 > owners are not a monopolistic competitor of our product whom have shown
5 > that they are willing to use laws such as the DMCA to pursue "criminals"
6 > who bypass their security measures.
7
8 AFAIK Microsoft have never used the DMCA against anyone. They have never even
9 threatened to use it. Andrew Huang (the MIT xbox hacker guy) published a book
10 explaining how to bypass xbox security, and they didn't threaten him. The
11 xbox-linux site explains in detail how to bypass security and install linux,
12 and they haven't received a single threat or takedown notice from Microsoft.
13
14 Huang said "The thing I have to emphasize is that the book itself is not
15 criminal, it'd be like saying that breaking and entering is illegal, so you
16 can't write a book on how locks work."
17
18 xbox-linux say "The DMCA forbids circumventing copy protection, but this is
19 not our goal. We develop an alternative operating system for the Xbox gaming
20 console. A side product could be the ability to run unsigned code, but this
21 alone does not make it possible to play pirated copies of games."
22
23 A Microsoft spokesman said (translated) "Basically it is like this: You can
24 disassemble, chop, smash every product you buy; this is your personal
25 decision. I assume that there are very very few people who do that; but if
26 they want to do that, it's is their business."
27
28 The best reference is probably the judge in the Elcomsoft case, who advised
29 the jury that to violate the DMCA you must know that your actions are
30 illegal, and have a clear intent to violate the law. So it is actually up to
31 you - if you believe that your actions are illegal (and they are), and do
32 them anyway, then you are breaking the law. If you believe that your actions
33 aren't illegal (but they are), then you aren't breaking the law. Simple.
34
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