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On 11-06-2011 09:23, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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> On 06/11/2011 03:36 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: |
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>> Il giorno sab, 11/06/2011 alle 01.48 +0100, Markos Chandras ha scritto: |
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>> Maybe I scream in private, but what you three (keeping Tomáa out of |
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>> this) are doing is crying in public because you're no longer allowed to |
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>> poop in the sandbox you should keep clean. |
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>> Do note that it was even your words: |
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>>> I am sorry but having elections every few months is not a solution. |
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>>> First we need to clean up the team, then become "team", then have |
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>>> elections. |
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>> Which is exactly what I'm going to do: I'm going to make sure that the |
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>> team is on the same page: policies has to be followed, or they need to |
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>> be changed. Which doesn't look like either of them (nor you I guess) |
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>> want to do. I'm pretty sure I didn't ask much to the team beside |
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>> actually following what the council decided. |
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>> Finally, I'd like to point out that neither my character nor my actions |
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>> have changed the slightest since the mail that Peper quoted yet I was |
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>> elected as team leader; it looks like though people wanted me to scream |
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>> at anyone else beside them too easy that way. |
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>> And the only two people in the team who bothered to cast a vote (Luca |
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>> and Christian), seems not to have an issue with me keeping this way. |
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>> So, this might hurt your feelings, but I'm not really sorry to see you |
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>> leave. As I said before I had been disappointed when people I had a high |
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>> esteem of decided that rules shouldn't apply to them. |
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> Calm down please. I don't scream in public. I tried to start quiet a lot |
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> of discussions in private before I make my decision. You are right. |
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> "Retire" is not a good work for the 4 people that left. Maybe "gone" is |
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> more appropriate. |
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> But, seeing your tone, it is very hard for me to even start a discussion |
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> cause everything leads to personal attacks, irony and Mediterranean |
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> temper that we both have. I lost all of my motivation and energy with |
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> Samuli's case. IMHO, kicking them out wont improve anything. They both |
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> agreed to follow the establish policy after all. QA team requires |
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> *active* (do note the word) people, not just people with high respect to |
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> rules. You have to admit, that now, you and Dane are the only ones who |
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> are really *active*. Can you two really handle the QA load by yourself? |
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> Diego, leadership means that you have to motivate and inspire people. |
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> People need to follow you not because they afraid of you but because |
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> they admire and respect you. You never really tried to talk to us and |
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> get some insights. Everytime we received a mail from you it was because |
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> someone has screwed up something and you were mad at him. Please, just |
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> stop and think for a second that you *may* be wrong at some points. |
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I see Diego's actions as "cleaning up" the QA team. |
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Some members of the QA team have left it because they got tired of how |
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some people in the QA team would not respect some rules and do |
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everything to prevent QA team from being able to enforce them. |
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Unfortunately, Tomas is not the first member to leave because of this. |
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If the actions of Diego make Tomas and the others want to get back to |
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QA, I'll consider this whole issue a success. |
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Markos, |
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the worst thing that I, looking from the outside, noticed about QA was |
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how some members were too quick at using the "QA hammer" to impose their |
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ideas to others, but always found ways not to follow some established |
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policies and not to get them applied to themselves. |
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As a council member, I am very happy to see Diego trying to "fix" QA, |
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doing his best to enforce policies and caring about the tree not being |
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broken. |
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- -- |
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Regards, |
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Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org |
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Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng |
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