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From: Kent Fredric <kentfredric@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:13:05
Message-Id: CAATnKFBrSjk6kP+jkhsn_eDxbYDYWga=Bnh6tYANH-mQ2OgavQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org by "Paweł Hajdan
1 On 16 June 2013 16:01, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." <phajdan.jr@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > On 6/9/13 7:22 AM, Alex Legler wrote:
4 > > I'd appreciate some input on below plan to move project pages to the
5 > Wiki:
6 >
7 > Alex, thanks for working on this! Some feedback:
8 >
9 > 1. How will the project pages be protected against "unwanted" edits? I
10 > think it's valuable to have some official pages where you know only
11 > Gentoo devs can edit them.
12 >
13 > 2. How will the staffing needs page be updated after dropping gorg?
14 >
15 > 3. How secure is the wiki? Do we have regular backups and security
16 > updates procedures in place? I know you're member of the security team
17 > and infra team is doing its job well, but I just wanted to check.
18 > Dynamic web applications arguably have bigger attack surface than
19 > effectively a bunch of static files only editable after you gain server
20 > access.
21 >
22 > Paweł
23 >
24 >
25 >
26 IMHO, the criteria for being able to edit the wiki should be lower than the
27 present requirements on "being a Gentoo Dev".
28
29 There should still be some degree of vetting, but the risk a person poses
30 being able to make doc updates is significantly less than the risk a person
31 poses by throwing them a CVS bit.
32
33 I'd be interested in seeing if theres' a way to have "vetted" edits of some
34 kind, ala a patchqueue/pull-merge feature but for wikis, allowing a user to
35 edit a page as they see fit, but the changes are only visible to them until
36 they mark their edits "done" where it can be pushed to a moderation queue
37 for somebody trusted to check over.
38
39 Because otherwise, I feel you're missing out on the benefits of wiki.
40
41 A game I play, tribalwars.com, has a wiki, but the purpose of having a wiki
42 is incredibly redundant, because most the documentation there is grossly
43 out of date, and the tribalwars staff (the only people who can edit it)
44 don't edit anything themselves much, and as a result, there are huge chunks
45 of the wiki that are blatantly wrong, and I would edit them if I could, and
46 there is no good reason to suggest my edits would be likely "malevolent" in
47 fixing this, but alas, due to fear of abuse to security, the wiki hugely
48 misses its intended audience and is practically useless, and the rigmarole
49 that is required for any casual user correcting finding a minor flaw is so
50 great, it simply never occurs.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o>