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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:26:22
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr by Joshua Kinard
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote:
> On 09/18/2011 13:26, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > >> >> I don't see how this is relevant to the problem of udev and /usr at >> all. Unless you want to go back to the days of devfs and lots of >> manual configuration. :) > > > Me either (somewhat).  But I do see is this: If udev is going to make it a > requirement that one or more paritions be available at udevd start time, > then maybe going back to devfs might not be such a bad idea after all. > > I use plain vanilla setups on almost any Linux box I build.  For x86, LILO > (yes, that thing), a simple kernel, most hardware built in, some extraneous > stuff built as modules.  sysvinit for the init package, /{usr,home,var,tmp} > on separate partitions, no X11, no gnome, no KDE, no Xfce, no fluxbox, no > IRIS Indigo, no aewm++, no CDE, no DBUS, no audio support (the machine > doesn't even have an audio card), headless (except with it messes up, which > is very rare), etc.  I.e., I run my box like a server. > > My MIPS systems (the working ones, anyways) are even more vanilla.  I > netboot each of them off my x86 box versus using a bootloader, they have > what amounts to a minimal Gentoo install, system + plus other utilities, > definitely no X11, etc. > > These setups are pretty much plain vanilla Linux/UNIX setups, and it's what > has worked for years, so I don't see a need to change it with a permanence. >  If other distros want to create alternatives, that is fine.  But *I* should > retain the choice to use or not to use those alternatives.  That means, udev > needs to be configurable enough to allow me to make it _not_ require /usr > being available.  Let the default be the other way -- that's fine. > > But if udev upstream is taking *away* choice, and making /usr mandatory > (especially if it's because some other distro has this offbeat, utopian, > überDesktop concept), then that's a bug and someone needs to write a patch > and send it upstream.
I think the list you want is linux-hotplug-devel@×××××××××××××××××.net; the gentoo-dev list is not for udev development. If 'someone' needs to write a patch then I assume you will volunteer?
> > -- > Joshua Kinard > Gentoo/MIPS > kumba@g.o > 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 > > "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us.  And > our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." > > --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic > >


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Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>