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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:30:22
Message-Id: 4F620ADC.1080409@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! by Joshua Kinard
1 On 03/15/2012 05:27 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
2 > On 03/14/2012 20:45, Zac Medico wrote:
3 >
4 >> On 03/14/2012 05:36 PM, David Leverton wrote:
5 >>> On 14 March 2012 23:47, Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote:
6 >>>> It's more about what we're _not_ doing that what we're doing.
7 >>>
8 >>> Clearly something must have changed in udev 181 to make
9 >>> /usr-without-initramfs not work anymore, and someone must have done
10 >>> something to make that change happen, unless udev has aquired the
11 >>> ability to evolve by itself.
12 >>
13 >> You're pointing your finger at udev, but the udev change is just a
14 >> symptom of a more general shift away from supporting the "/ is a
15 >> self-contained boot disk that is independent of /usr" use case.
16 >
17 >
18 > I think it's better to say that udev is one of the more important components
19 > of your average Linux system that's decided to support a unified root + /usr
20 > filesystem. If we were looking at some non-critical, non-boot service that
21 > made this decision, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
22
23 They're intertwined though, since having a unified root implies that
24 there is no support for the "/ is a self-contained boot disk that is
25 independent of /usr" use case, and the bulk of people's opposition to
26 having a unified root seems to stem from their dependence on the "/ is a
27 self-contained boot disk that is independent of /usr" use case.
28
29 So, the question at the heart of the whole discussion is: Should we
30 support the "/ is a self-contained boot disk that is independent of
31 /usr" use case?
32 --
33 Thanks,
34 Zac