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@council: We need to discuss ways to improve the current policy. See below. |
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On 06/07/11 23:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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> On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: |
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>> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco |
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>> was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either, it's |
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>> far too wide. However, if you go back and look at why it even *got* to |
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>> council, it was because you (and others), decided that they weren't |
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>> going to give any regard to the requests of some of their fellow devs |
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>> about ChangeLogging removals. |
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It was not only that, and the situation escalated as people tried to |
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lawyer around instead of doing something productive like writing a perl |
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script to wrap the "nonsense" so they can ignore it. |
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Result was an unambiguous policy so that no lawyering happens and all |
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ChangeLogs make sense. |
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> how is this relevant at all ? i dont find value in these entries, other |
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> people do. my attitude towards how worthless they are has 0 bearing on the |
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> policy towards creating it. |
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So you say that you want to follow the rules but accidentally forgot it? |
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Since it has caused so much trouble I'd like to see it discussed and |
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improved by the council. I disagreed with the initial strict wording, |
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and I think the fallout has shown that we need to find a common ground |
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so that no one feels he has to ignore the rules. |
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> if you want useless information, then automate it. there's no reason at all |
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> to not do so. i prefer to keep useful information in the changelogs of |
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> packages i maintain without cluttering up with noise. |
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> -mike |
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Here's the problem. Useful depends a lot on the context. |
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Sometimes I only care about a new addition. Sometimes I care about when |
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and how a patch was introduced. Sometimes I care about removals because |
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some monkey has broken things for me. |
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In all cases I want one resource to look at, viewcvs is a horrible and |
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slow interface. So it does make sense to keep changelogs filled with |
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information - maybe automation is needed, I don't have a strong opinion |
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either way. But don't make me do more work because you are lazy, that |
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never ends well. |
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Patrick Lauer http://service.gentooexperimental.org |
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