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29.03.02 11:13:18, "Michael & Malania Copeland" <mcopeland@××××××××.com> wrote: |
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>I have some newbie questions that I would like to |
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>respectfully ask. I learned about Gentoo linux through Jack |
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>Kolesar's article about the Shuttle AK35GTR motherboard. I |
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gentoo users are on a rise :-). |
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>Anyway, my home internet connection is not broadband, so |
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>downloading XFree, KDE, gnome etc. would take a |
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>prohibitively long time. I noticed that Linux System Labs |
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In fact with gentoo it is POSSIBLE to have a nice up to date system even without any |
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broadband. Unlike other distributions (Red Hat, Mandrake, even debian to lesser extent) you can |
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only fetch sources that you absolutely need on a per package basis. |
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The install CD is only 16MB (~ 1.5 download). Bootstrap will require more time, but you are likely |
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to do it overnight, aren't you? (expect good 2 hrs for compile only, add about 3 more to fetch |
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files). Generally my estimate is that on an average PC (think 450MHz/128MB - normal for year old |
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system) downloads over 33,600 modem link will increase you install time by amount similar to what |
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compile will take. So in short do all large packages overnight, small are Ok even while you are at |
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it. |
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If you have broadband somewhere else, you can definitely speed things up. Download sources |
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(look at ebuild file names and sometimes inside to figure out what source is called), bring them |
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home on any media and then put them under /usr/portage/distfiles. To see what packages are going to |
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be installed (including all dependencies!) do: "emerge --pretend category/package" (same will do |
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for emerge system, etc.)). |
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Another trick to speed-up initial "emerge rsync": download portage tree (see FAQ) tarball and untar |
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it under /usr/portage (4MB download instead of 20!). |
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>has the latest Gentoo linux CD-R. I was wondering if that |
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>CD-R included other applications and if not, which CD should |
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>I get that has gnome, kde, XFree, mozilla or opera, star |
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>office etc. applications? |
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I do not know what is included on that CD, but I bet it is allready out of date :-). |
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With gentoo there are no big releases in terms of what packages are included (this is still similar |
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to this for portage code though). Everyday new ebuilds are submitted and old ones are updated. You |
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can contribute to!! (and this is the nicest thing about this distro). |
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>I'm sure you are very busy, so please bear with my newbie |
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>questions. I know that getting the source code and |
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You are definitely welcome. |
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BTW, questions of this kind are more appropriate for gentoo-user and gentoo-newbie mail-lists. You |
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should probably subscribe to those. |
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Sidenote to developers: |
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I think this question should be incororated into a FAQ since it appears so often. |
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There is "What if rsync doesn't work for me?" but no "Where do I put the sources after I downloaded |
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them at other location?". |
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Do you think "Is it realistic to use this distro without any broadband?" should be there to? |
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I'll submit it via bugzilla sometime unless anybody tells me not to. |
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George |