Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:22:56
Message-Id: 4A04321A.8020601@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development by Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
1 Duncan wrote:
2 > But no matter, the practical fact of the matter is that for someone who
3 > would otherwise not do IRC, it's just one more hurdle in the process.
4 > Whether it's useful or not, trivial or vital, no longer matters, it's
5 > defined by the gatekeepers as a requirement, therefore, by said
6 > definition, it is a requirement.
7 >
8
9 If an otherwise-capable candidate developer is stuck in some backwater
10 where the only ISP in the country has a 14-layer impenetrable protocol
11 filter on IRC I'm sure their mentor will bend over backwards to work
12 with them. However, this is becoming more of an argument over points of
13 rhetoric than anything with a practical impact. If somebody is
14 qualified to author gentoo documentation or write ebuilds they're going
15 to be able to figure out how to use /query or /msg in any of 47 irc
16 clients.
17
18 If somebody has some kind of physical/mental handicap that would prevent
19 realtime communications but not otherwise interfere with contributions
20 I'm sure a mentor would also be happy to try to work with that.
21 However, it is important that mentors have an opportunity to get to know
22 a candidate - they are responsible for their actions and you can't build
23 trust by only sending a few emails back and forth. Ultimately that is
24 the goal - Gentoo is a community and those who want to be devs do need
25 to be able to interact in at least a fairly nominal way with the
26 community at large.
27
28 Gentoo has MANY things that could stand some change/improvement. An
29 over-dependence on IRC could arguably be said to be one of them.
30 However, completely avoiding an effective realtime communications
31 technology simply for the sake of doing so seems a bit over the top.