Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24

[Jakub Moc]

Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a):
> On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:55 +0200
> Jakub Moc <jakub@g.o> wrote:
>> How does it matter exactly whether it's paludis users, gcc users, php
>> users, apache users or whoever else who will use the news item? Let's
>> not misuse news framework for stuff that
>
> Er, that's one of the main points of GLEP 42's design: it allows
> delivery of news items that are important to a subset of users only to
> that subset. The size of the subset is entirely irrelevant.

That's not what I've been pointing out at all, you've completely snipped
the important part about *unintended* use of this feature. So, once
again - this is not an elog replacement and is not intended for trivial
stuff (see the 'critical news' in GLEP42 title).

>> For this particular case, you can (and do even) advise specifically
>> the affected users only on runtime that the config files syntax has
>> been changed. (Frankly, you don't even need elog stuff for similar
>> things; everyone concerned will get the message paludis spits on the
>> screen when they try to use it).
>
> Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this
> users want an accompanying news item even if the application does output
> deprecation warnings.

Well again, what kind of experience? You cannot just carry over an
existing practice of heavily abusing such stuff in a particular overlay
with a couple of ebuilds and implant it into a tree with thousands of
packages - it will produce loads of annoying noise and the feature will
become useless if every maintainer starts to use news framework in a
similar way.


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