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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@××××××××××××.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] apache and ~arch
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:52:37
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] apache and ~arch by Grant Goodyear
1 On Sunday 13 March 2005 18:24, Grant Goodyear wrote:
2 > Yes, I was one of the many people who emerged the new apache ebuild
3 > without paying sufficient attention to the mailing list post announcing
4 > the dramatic changes. *Shrug* It took me a day or so to get things
5 > fixed, but that was my own fault, and I have no complaints about the
6 > new config.
8 <cut>
10 > So, what should one do about a package that, in and of itself, is fully
11 > functional, but related packages have not yet been updated and package
12 > maintainers cannot be urged to move faster to fix the packages? Well,
13 > nagging on bugs is usually the first step, followed by nagging on -dev
14 > so that people know that there is a problem. If that doesn't work, the
15 > traditional method is to patch the related ebuilds oneself, add the
16 > patched ebuilds to package.mask in a nice big block along w/ the
17 > principal package, and start asking people to test. That way, once it
18 > appears that the bugs are reasonably worked out the whole block can be
19 > unmasked at once, minimizing pain for our users who "can't read".
20 > Moreover, once this step is done it is perfectly reasonable to post a
21 > bug and a message to -dev saying "New foo system seems to be working,
22 > and we plan to unmask all at once in 30 days unless any maintainers of
23 > these packages [provide list] explicitly tells us not to do so."
24 >
25 It's actually worse. I had a new testing version of subversion in package
26 mask, but it did not get unmasked with apache. Neither did I get notified
27 (except by the general announcement) that the new apache stuff would be
28 unmasked. I caught it in a couple of hours, but am wary of what happens
29 when the new apache is marked stable as that would introduce similar
30 problems.
32 Paul
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35 Paul de Vrieze
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Re: [gentoo-dev] apache and ~arch Aaron Walker <ka0ttic@g.o>