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Joshua Saddler wrote: |
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> On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:49:00 +0200 |
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> Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote: |
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>> Hello |
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>> I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to |
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>> create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my |
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>> first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of |
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>> fragmentation, much slower "emerge -pvuDN world" (I benchmarked it |
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>> when I changed my partitioning scheme to put /usr/portage) separate |
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>> and a lot of disk space lost (I remember portage tree reached |
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>> around 3 GB of disk space while I am now running with 300MB) |
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>> Could handbook suggest people to put /usr/portage on a different |
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>> partition then? The only doubt I have is what filesystem would be |
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>> better for it, in my case I am using reiserfs with tail enabled, |
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>> but maybe you have other different setups. |
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>> Thanks for discussing this :) |
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> not gonna happen, for reasons that SwifT & others already mentioned. |
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> this is the sort of non-simple, non-trivial text/info/instructions |
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> that would be better suited to an "optimizing your FS layout" article |
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> on the gentoo wiki, or similar. |
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Well, way back when I first installed Gentoo, I actually read some |
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before I even started. I learned through all that reading that /, |
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/boot, /home, /usr, /usr/portage and /var are best on their own |
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partition. Each of those are for different reasons. |
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The root partition is obvious, I would hope anyway. ;-) The boot |
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partitions comes in handy if you don't automount it or have more than |
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one distro installed. Home is obvious. People recommended /usr because |
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it could a) be mounted read only and b) it can be enlarged if needed |
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since it tends to grow a lot. Portage since it is tons of small files |
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and tends to fragment a lot. The var partition is so that if some error |
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message repeats itself overnight and fills up the partition it at least |
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doesn't lock up the whole system. I actually had this one happen to me |
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once. For some reason, even logrotate didn't catch it, tar up and |
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delete the old ones. I woke up to a mess that only going to single user |
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would fix. The best thing I did was to have /var on its own partition. |
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When people are planning to install Gentoo and they have not done at |
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least some research, I think they should get to keep the pieces. |
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Installing Gentoo is not something to do on a whim. It should be |
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planned and thought through even if the person is completely new to |
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Gentoo. I read up for at least a month before ever even starting. |
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I agree with having a simple manual for the folks that want to install |
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just to look and then have a separate manual, wiki even, for more |
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serious set ups. This can include things like RAID, LVM and having more |
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than a couple partitions. Of course, Gentoo is almost endless in options. |
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Back to my hole. |
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Dale |
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:-) :-) |
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-- |
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I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or |
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how you interpreted my words! |
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Miss the compile output? Hint: |
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EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n" |